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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just looked at the calendar and realized the date – April 4.  On this date the tragic shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. occurred in the "fair" city near which I live (Memphis).  Yet another stellar moment in Memphis history (she says *very* sarcastically). Thank you for reminding me of this.  He is one of the people I revere most. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, and a voice, a heart and a mind that shook the foundations of this country for the better.  My his work continue on in the hearts and minds of generations now and to come. Ginger-lyn

I was born in California.  I only wound up living in the southern U.S. because my father happened to retire while stationed in South Carolina.  I’m not a Christian, either.  But the man was a proponent of rights for all people, regardless of race and, even though he was a minister, I believe regardless of creed.  He was a great voice, sadly lost. Jill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Home Pages:   http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/   http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats)   http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm   (genealogy) http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/glsummer/ (The Violence      Against Animals in Movies Website)

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yodeled: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just looked at the calendar and realized the date – April 4.  On this date the tragic shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. occurred in the "fair" city near which I live (Memphis).  Yet another stellar moment in Memphis history (she says *very* sarcastically). Thank you for reminding me of this.  He is one of the people I revere most. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, and a voice, a heart and a mind that shook the foundations of this country for the better.  My his work continue on in the hearts and minds of generations now and to come. Ginger-lyn I was born in California.  I only wound up living in the southern U.S. because my father happened to retire while stationed in South Carolina.  I’m not a Christian, either.  But the man was a proponent of rights for all people, regardless of race and, even though he was a minister, I believe regardless of creed.  He was a great voice, sadly lost. Jill

It was HE, not all these nuts running around with their mouths flapping these days, who was what a Christian is meant to be.  It is a sad day when people appropriate the name of Christianity to justify their bigotries. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence,

I think MLK’s message trascended race, religion, geography and even nationality. His was a message of hope and equality, that is just as valid today as it was back then. Like him, I too have a dream… — Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, I think MLK’s message trascended race, religion, geography and even nationality. His was a message of hope and equality, that is just as valid today as it was back then. Like him, I too have a dream…

*D’Oh* I am *such* an idiot. My favourite pice of Music *ever* is U2’s MLK from ‘Unforgettable fire’. I didn’t realise what those three letters meant until literally *just now*. May his message one day be heeded. Yowie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, I think MLK’s message trascended race, religion, geography and even nationality. His was a message of hope and equality, that is just as valid today as it was back then. Like him, I too have a dream… *D’Oh* I am *such* an idiot. My favourite pice of Music *ever* is U2’s MLK from ‘Unforgettable fire’. I didn’t realise what those three letters meant until literally *just now*. May his message one day be heeded. Yowie

"Early morning, April 4, shot rings out in the Memphis sky… Free at last, they took your life, they could not take your pride." Jill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, I think MLK’s message trascended race, religion, geography and even nationality. His was a message of hope and equality, that is just as valid today as it was back then. Like him, I too have a dream… *D’Oh* I am *such* an idiot. My favourite pice of Music *ever* is U2’s MLK from ‘Unforgettable fire’. I didn’t realise what those three letters meant until literally *just now*. May his message one day be heeded. Yowie "Early morning, April 4, shot rings out in the Memphis sky… Free at last, they took your life, they could not take your pride."

Close, but no banana. The above lyrics come from "Pride (in the name of love)" from the same CD as MLK. MLK is: Sleep Sleep tonight And may your dreams Be realized If the thunder cloud Passes rain So let it rain Rain down on him So let it be So let it be Sleep Sleep tonight And may your dreams Be realized If the thundercloud Passes rain So let it rain Let it rain Rain on him and Pride (in the name of love) is: One man come in the name of love One man come and go One man come, he to justify One man to overthrow In the name of love What more in the name of love In the name of love What more in the name of love One man caught on a barbed wire fence One man he resist One man washed on an empty beach. One man betrayed with a kiss In the name of love What more in the name of love In the name of love What more in the name of love (nobody like you…) Early morning, April 4 Shot rings out in the Memphis sky Free at last, they took your life They could not take your pride In the name of love What more in the name of love In the name of love What more in the name of love In the name of love What more in the name of love… Sorry, I was a *huge* U2 fan in the 80’s. I still like them as they are now, but not as much as the music they did before "Achtung Baby". Yowie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – yodeled: I just looked at the calendar and realized the date – April 4.  On this date the tragic shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. occurred in the "fair" city near which I live (Memphis).  Yet another stellar moment in Memphis history (she says *very* sarcastically). Thank you for reminding me of this.  He is one of the people I revere most. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Me, too, although it seems an odd thing.  I’m white, I’m not Christian, I’m northern.  But none of it matters.  He had a presence, and a voice, a heart and a mind that shook the foundations of this country for the better.  My his work continue on in the hearts and minds of generations now and to come. Ginger-lyn Home Pages:   http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/   http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats)   http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy)   http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/glsummer/ (The Violence Against                                              Animals in Movies Website)

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I just looked at the calendar and realized the date – April 4.  On this date the tragic shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. occurred in the "fair" city near which I live (Memphis).  Yet another stellar moment in Memphis history (she says *very* sarcastically). Jill — I used to have a handle on life…but it broke off.

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Wow. I didn’t even see it mentioned in the paper. I remember that day.

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yodeled: I just looked at the calendar and realized the date – April 4.  On this date the tragic shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. occurred in the "fair" city near which I live (Memphis).  Yet another stellar moment in Memphis history (she says *very* sarcastically).

Thank you for reminding me of this.  He is one of the people I revere most. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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 Me too. What courage he had, and what a force for good he was. And he definitely had a charismatic way with words.  We lost him far too soon. Melissa

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Even on the last tour he mimed parts of Elevation on a nighly basis! – Hey Nicky I don’t if I really want to know but what songs are you refering to?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The wonders of modern technology have been around along time – "Pride In the name of Love" was tweaked Was it? I didn’t know that. But that was almost 20 years ago tho. Bono’s voice has changed some what. He’s no doubt restricted to what he can do. flagged as a single from the JT but they decided not to release because Bono couldn’t reach the high notes playing Live. Aye that’s right. I suppose some songs did have to be left out. He was singing Bad at that time to its full effect with those Wide Awake parts, I guess if he was to sing too many songs like that he’d never last a tour. I guess I’m agreeing with you Nicky in that U2’s ethics on playing Live in recent years have changed ~ for the worse There’s no doubt. The band have said there not afraid to bring some of the studio elements of the songs to the live stage. Even on the last tour he mimed parts of Elevation on a nighly basis! But hey I bet you’ll still be up there with the rest of us scrambling for tickets for the next batch UK live shows. I suppose anyone who sings like Bono has done for 25 years your going to lose some of the voice. But he still does a cracking job with what he has imo. Nicky

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Hey Nicky I don’t if I really want to know but what songs are you refering to?

He mimed the high pitched parts of the song "Elevation". You can see it on the DVD if you have it.

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Bono’s voice, Adam sans glazzies…I’m kicking myself for missing this thing. Anyone have an mpeg of it I could download? matt

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The wonders of modern technology have been around along time – "Pride In the name of Love" was tweaked Was it? I didn’t know that. But that was almost 20 years ago tho. Bono’s voice has changed some what. He’s no doubt restricted to what he can do. flagged as a single from the JT but they decided not to release because Bono couldn’t reach the high notes playing Live. Aye that’s right. I suppose some songs did have to be left out. He was singing Bad at that time to its full effect with those Wide Awake parts, I guess if he was to sing too many songs like that he’d never last a tour. I guess I’m agreeing with you Nicky in that U2’s ethics on playing Live in recent years have changed ~ for the worse There’s no doubt. The band have said there not afraid to bring some of the studio elements of the songs to the live stage. Even on the last tour he mimed parts of Elevation on a nighly basis! But hey I bet you’ll still be up there with the rest of us scrambling for tickets for the next batch UK live shows. I suppose anyone who sings like Bono has done for 25 years your going to lose some of the voice. But he still does a cracking job with what he has imo. Nicky

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The wonders of modern technology have been around along time – "Pride In the name of Love" was tweaked

Was it? I didn’t know that. But that was almost 20 years ago tho. Bono’s voice has changed some what. He’s no doubt restricted to what he can do. flagged as a single from the JT but they decided not to release because Bono couldn’t reach the high notes playing Live.

Aye that’s right. I suppose some songs did have to be left out. He was singing Bad at that time to its full effect with those Wide Awake parts, I guess if he was to sing too many songs like that he’d never last a tour. I guess I’m agreeing with you Nicky in that U2’s ethics on playing Live in recent years have changed ~ for the worse

There’s no doubt. The band have said there not afraid to bring some of the studio elements of the songs to the live stage. Even on the last tour he mimed parts of Elevation on a nighly basis! But hey I bet you’ll still be up there with the rest of us scrambling for tickets for the next batch UK live shows. I suppose anyone who sings like Bono has done for 25 years your going to lose some of the voice. But he still does a cracking job with what he has imo. Nicky

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The only ‘mimed’ parts I could see is the tribal thing in the middle, and I think it was meant as background.  You could hear Bono on top of that – just not very well and with the pose he took it looked a bit staged.  But hey its HollyWood right!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Having watched Edge introduce The Clash into the RnR Hall of Fame with a passionate speech I thought  these guys (U2) still believe in the RnR Dream. Then  I watched the Oscars to see Bono miming to Millions of viewers. What a let down……. a disgruntled Fan.

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The wonders of modern technology have been around along time – "Pride In the name of Love" was tweaked when recorded almost 20 years ago but Bono never mimed it. Also wasn’t "Red hill mining town" flagged as a single from the JT but they decided not to release because Bono couldn’t reach the high notes playing Live. I guess I’m agreeing with you Nicky in that U2’s ethics on playing Live in recent years have changed ~ for the worse

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Having watched Edge introduce The Clash into the RnR Hall of Fame with a passionate speech I thought  these guys (U2) still believe in the RnR Dream. Then  I watched the Oscars to see Bono miming to Millions of viewers. What a let down……. a disgruntled Fan. Its not the first time Bono or the band has mimed in recent years tho. These live TV things are never classics, you’ve just gotta take them for what they are. I wasn’t impressed neither, but I wasn’t expecting to be. In any case Bono sang most of the song live, only that high pitch part of the song he mimed. C’mon do you really think Bono sung all of that high pitch part of the song on the album version? Of course he didn’t, The wonders of modern technology. Nicky

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Having watched Edge introduce The Clash into the RnR Hall of Fame with a passionate speech I thought  these guys (U2) still believe in the RnR Dream. Then  I watched the Oscars to see Bono miming to Millions of viewers. What a let down……. a disgruntled Fan.

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Having watched Edge introduce The Clash into the RnR Hall of Fame with a passionate speech I thought  these guys (U2) still believe in the RnR Dream. Then  I watched the Oscars to see Bono miming to Millions of viewers. What a let down……. a disgruntled Fan.

Its not the first time Bono or the band has mimed in recent years tho. These live TV things are never classics, you’ve just gotta take them for what they are. I wasn’t impressed neither, but I wasn’t expecting to be. In any case Bono sang most of the song live, only that high pitch part of the song he mimed. C’mon do you really think Bono sung all of that high pitch part of the song on the album version? Of course he didn’t, The wonders of modern technology. Nicky

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it on this Friday BBC1 at 11.45p.m. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – missed this anybody got it taped im near the glasgow area i can send a tape some dosh etc if u can copy it for me peace BB

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – it’s on this Friday BBC1 at 11.45p.m.( England).not sure about scots missed this anybody got it taped im near the glasgow area i can send a tape some dosh etc if u can copy it for me peace BB

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Aye I noticed that too. The bit where they were in his childhood home and

looking out his bedroom window to see if they could see the Seven Towers intrigued me as well.

Surely he never wrote Running To Stand Still whilst in his bedroom as a teenager.

I guess they would argue that he wrote the song with his childhood experience of looking out the window seeing the towers in mind. But there’s more obvious songs like ITABTAW, Twilight etc that would have suited the piece better imo. But we’re just nitpicking really. What about the 1000 edition of the 12" numbered U2-3 tho, looked as good as new. Puts my 7" to shame really! hehe

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missed this anybody got it taped im near the glasgow area i can send a tape some dosh etc if u can copy it for me peace BB

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: My only complaint is how they used the music….They were playing Mysterious : Ways, One whilst reviewing his early life. It seemed abit daft ye know but : then again the music did suit the piece I guess. Aye I noticed that too. The bit where they were in his childhood home and looking out his bedroom window to see if they could see the Seven Towers intrigued me as well. Surely he never wrote Running To Stand Still whilst in his bedroom as a teenager.

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When did he ever look good mind you??

That is true, but he looks seriously ill now. Its hard to believe he still sells out some of the biggest stages in the UK yet. Somebody told me he doesn’t drink anymore but I dunno if thats true. Looks like he doesn’t need it anymore. Think I might buy hos book

tomorrow! Well I was lead to believe he has to drink quite abit before going on stage now, fuck knows if that’s true tho. Yeah I’m going to stick a tape in too. Never taped this one cos I never

expected much but it was impressive. Much better than those turgid discographies with some over the

top US accent voiceover! Not slagging you USians by the way just your MTV presenters!!

My only complaint is how they used the music….They were playing Mysterious Ways, One whilst reviewing his early life. It seemed abit daft ye know but then again the music did suit the piece I guess.

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So what do all of those who seen it reckon then?? I really enjoyed it and the highlight has got to be Shane MacGowan’s rendition of Pride (In The Name Of Love)! Repeated on BBC3 at 1.50am for those who missed it

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So what do all of those who seen it reckon then??

One of the better ones that’s for sure!! I really enjoyed it and the highlight has got to be Shane MacGowan’s rendition of Pride (In The Name Of Love)!

He looks fucking awful now it has to be said, I couldn’t believe that was him. Repeated on BBC3 at 1.50am for those who missed it

Yep! I’m taping it again. I promised Annie I’d tape it for her expecting it not to be very ground breaking but I was very impressed.

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: So what do all of those who seen it reckon then?? : : One of the better ones that’s for sure!! : : : I really enjoyed it and the highlight has got to : be Shane MacGowan’s rendition of Pride (In The Name Of Love)! : : He looks fucking awful now it has to be said, I couldn’t believe that was : him. When did he ever look good mind you?? He came out at half time during the Celtic & Livvy game (with the bloke that writes for Westlife. Now there’s a bizarre duo for you!!) when we won the league and he was staggering all over the place. Somebody told me he doesn’t drink anymore but I dunno if thats true. Looks like he doesn’t need it anymore. Think I might buy hos book tomorrow! : : Repeated on BBC3 at 1.50am for those who missed it : : Yep! I’m taping it again. I promised Annie I’d tape it for her expecting it : not to be very ground breaking but I was very impressed. Yeah I’m going to stick a tape in too. Never taped this one cos I never expected much but it was impressive. Much better than those turgid discographies with some over the top US accent voiceover! Not slagging you USians by the way just your MTV presenters!!

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I found a copy (320 Kbs quality) on WinMX.  I am 14th in queue.  Just so you know its out there somewhere.  I have searched Morpheus and haven’t found it yet, nor have I found it on anyone’s webpages.  If I get it downloaded maybe I can send it to you or something. George

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If you are looking for a general, good remix service, go for X-Mix (made in Boston), DMC (made in the UK), or Ultimix (made in North Carolina).

where i can download or buy this mixes?

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Well, they are VERY rare…each company typically only makes 500 copies of each issue. Now, I have about 15 Hot Tracks and 25 Ultimix/Funkymix issues and about 15 X-Mix issues. I’ll make ya a deal…I am absolutely DYING to get the U2 "fruit" cds in 256k format.  I own about 25 U2 cd singles and promos with remixes, but the fruit cds have mixes that I don’t have.  I am also looking for the newer Elevation (The Vandit Club Mix (8:54)) remix to check it out before I plop another $11.99 when it comes out in Boston next week. If someone in this group is willing to post the U2 fruit cds at a high bitrate, I will be willing to repost any of my remix services. I would post them in alt.binaries.remixes.mp3  and would like you to as well. I think this sounds pretty fair since I am offering about 50 cds and I think there are only about 6 fruit cds. I don’t have a text list of Hot Tracks (I own the Hot Tracks 15th Anniversary cd set if you want to look at their web site) or X-Mix, but here is a list of what I own (I think a few Ultimix cds are not in this list) for Ultimix and Funkymix: Funkymix 6 – 01 – Tom’s Diner – DNA Featuring Suzanne Vega and After One Funkymix 6 – 02 – Yeah – UK One Featuring Tia and Chantel Funkymix 6 – 03 – Ice Ice Baby – Vanilla Ice Funkymix 6 – 04 – Pray – MC Hammer Funkymix 6 – 05 – Swing – The Def Boys Funkymix 6 – 07 – Just Another Dream – Cathy Dennis Funkymix 6 – 08 – Keep Watchin’ – Michelle Funkymix 6 – 09 – Conceited – Kyper Funkymix 6 – 10 – Love Will Never Do – Janet Jackson Funkymix 6 – 06 – We In The House – JJ Fad Funkymix 7 – 01 – Same Song – Digital Underground Funkymix 7 – 02 – King of New York – Schooly D Funkymix 7 – 03 – This House – Tracie Spencer Funkymix 7 – 04 – Hold You Tight – Tara Kemp Funkymix 7 – 05 – Diss You – King Tee Funkymix 7 – 06 – Funk Boutique – The Cover Girls Funkymix 7 – 07 – Treat ‘Em Right – Chubb Rock Funkymix 7 – 08 – Dangerous On The Dance Floor – Musto and Bones Funkymix 7 – 09 – Warrior – MC Wildski Funkymix 7 – 10 – Here Comes The Hammer – MC Hammer Funkymix 7 – 11 – Go For It – Joey B Ellis and Tynetta Have Funkymix 8 – 01 – People Are Still Having Sex – La Tour Funkymix 8 – 02 – Ring Ring Ring – De La Soul Funkymix 8 – 03 – Hurt Me! Hurt Me! But The Pants Stay On – Samantha Fox Funkymix 8 – 04 – Jazzy Way – Scratchmaster Chuck T Funkymix 8 – 05 – Romeo And Juliet – Malcolm McLaren Funkymix 8 – 06 – Step To Me – Matronix Funkymix 8 – 07 – Piece Of My Heart – Tara Kemp Funkymix 8 – 08 – Everybody Fuck Now – Sissy Penis Factory Funkymix 8 – 09 – Daddy’s Little Girl – Nikki D Funkymix 8 – 10 – The 1990 Funkymix Medley Part 1 Funkymix 9 – 01 – OPP – Naughty By Nature Funkymix 9 – 02 – Now That We’ve Found Love – Heavy D and The Boyz Funkymix 9 – 03 – That’s The Way Love Goes – Young MC Funkymix 9 – 04 – This Jam Is Cold – C Vello Funkymix 9 – 05 – Elevate My Mind – Stereo MC’s Funkymix 9 – 06 – A Roller Skating Jam Named Saturdays – De La Soul Funkymix 9 – 07 – Too Late – The Real Milli Vanilli Funkymix 9 – 08 – Turn It Up – Oaktown’s 357 Funkymix 9 – 09 – My Name Is Not Susan – Whitney Houston Funkymix 9 – 10 – No Deeper Meaning – Culture Beat Funkymix 10 – 01 – Set Adrift On Memory Bliss – PM Dawn Funkymix 10 – 02 – Doo Doo Brown – 2 Hyped Brothers And A Dog Funkymix 10 – 03 – Ring My Bell – DJ Jazzy Jeff And The Fresh Prince Funkymix 10 – 04 – Can’t Trust It – Public Enemy Funkymix 10 – 05 – Pop That Pussy – 2 Live Crew Funkymix 10 – 06 – Word To The Mutha – Bell Biv Devoe Funkymix 10 – 07 – We Can Do This – Kid Panic Funkymix 10 – 08 – Big 12 Inch – The Don Funkymix 10 – 09 – The 1990 Funkymix Medley Part2 FunkyMix 13 – 01 – Informer (Snow) FunkyMix 13 – 02 – I Got A Man (Positive K) FunkyMix 13 – 03 – The Dazzey Dukes Mix (Duice – Repo Crew) FunkyMix 13 – 04 – Rebirth Of Slick (Digable Planets) FunkyMix 13 – 05 – Funky Child (Lords Of The underground) FunkyMix 13 – 06 – Tap The Bottle (Young Black Teenagers) FunkyMix 13 – 07 – Push (Tisha) FunkyMix 13 – 08 – Hey Love (Mr. Lee) FunkyMix 13 – 09 – Gold Diggin’ Girls (Mc Nas-D & DJ Freaky Fred) FunkyMix 13 – 10 – Nuthin But A -G- Thang (Dr. Dre) FunkyMix 13 – 11 – I’m So Into You (SWV) The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 01 – Rob’s Base Mix The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 02 – Keep On Moving The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 03 – Fight The Power The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 04 – Bust A Move The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 05 – No More Lies The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 06 – Every Little Step – Don’t Be Cruel The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 01 – Funky Cold Medina The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 02 – The 2 Live Mix The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 03 – Expression The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 04 – The Buffalo Mix The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 05 – I Got Your Boyfriend – Girlfriend The Best of Funkymix Vol 1 – 06 – Don’t Forget My Number Ulitmix 28 – 02 – Debbie Gibson – Electric Youth (Mix by Bradley D. Hinkle) Ulitmix 28 – 03 – Peter Schilling – The Different Stroy (Mix by Les Massengale) Ulitmix 28 – 04 – Jody Watley – Real Love (Mix by Ray McLeod) Ulitmix 28 – 05 – Sheena Easton – Days Like This (Mix by Les Massengale) Ulitmix 28 – 06 – Paula Abdul – Forever Your Girl (Mix by Rob Harvey) Ulitmix 28 – 07 – Various Artists – The 1988 Flashback Medley (Part 2) (Mix by Bradley D. 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I have found some U2 Hot Tracks Remix on net in MP3 for download. Can someone tell me what is all about? I mean who relased that CD and track listing….

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Hot Tracks is a dj-only service that provides deejays with rare remixes that are produced by Hot Tracks. I have a few of their cds….I think they are kinda cheesy…they have ripped off Ultimix at times (another dj-only service) and Hot Tracks "mixes" are more like re-edits of 1 of the mix…not much hard work done. I have about 20 of their cds and think the mixes are boring. If you are looking for a general, good remix service, go for X-Mix (made in Boston), DMC (made in the UK), or Ultimix (made in North Carolina). -Fred – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have found some U2 Hot Tracks Remix on net in MP3 for download. Can someone tell me what is all about? I mean who relased that CD and track listing….

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Ultimix stuff is cool.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hot Tracks is a dj-only service that provides deejays with rare remixes that are produced by Hot Tracks. I have a few of their cds….I think they are kinda cheesy…they have ripped off Ultimix at times (another dj-only service) and Hot Tracks "mixes" are more like re-edits of 1 of the mix…not much hard work done. I have about 20 of their cds and think the mixes are boring. If you are looking for a general, good remix service, go for X-Mix (made in Boston), DMC (made in the UK), or Ultimix (made in North Carolina). -Fred I have found some U2 Hot Tracks Remix on net in MP3 for download. Can someone tell me what is all about? I mean who relased that CD and track listing….

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Dude…I JUST deleted all my Ultimix mp3s I made from my original cds. I had posted them last month in alt.binaries.remixes.mp3 and had to delete them to make room on my drive (they totalled 2G). If you are looking for particular issues, post the requests.  BTW, I do not have any issues higher than 53.  That’s when they started to suck.  I own most of the cds from 27-50 and quite a few collections like Best Of Ultimix and Best of Funkymix. They never did any U2 stuff, however. Let me know… -Fred – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ultimix stuff is cool. Hot Tracks is a dj-only service that provides deejays with rare remixes that are produced by Hot Tracks. I have a few of their cds….I think they are kinda cheesy…they have ripped off Ultimix at times (another dj-only service) and Hot Tracks "mixes" are more like re-edits of 1 of the mix…not much hard work done. I have about 20 of their cds and think the mixes are boring. If you are looking for a general, good remix service, go for X-Mix (made in Boston), DMC (made in the UK), or Ultimix (made in North Carolina). -Fred I have found some U2 Hot Tracks Remix on net in MP3 for download. Can someone tell me what is all about? I mean who relased that CD and track listing….

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I have read and been told that he fell off of the stage in Washington DC at RFK stadium during the show. I was not there  :(

I was  It wasn’t actually OFF the stage, but he did fall and injure himself…

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Per the credits at the end of the DVD: BB King and his Band (WLCTT) New Voices of Freedom (SHFWILF) The Memphis Horns (Angel of Harlem) Joseph M. Miskulin ( I think this may be the guy playing the harmonica and tamborine on ‘Freedom for My People’ in Harlem. Regarding the bit Freedom for My People, Bono seems to have some sort of brace or cast on his arm.  Anyone know the story behind that?

He had fallen onstage and dislocated his shoulder during a previous show.

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I have read and been told that he fell off of the stage in Washington DC at RFK stadium during the show. I was not there  :( —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Think he fell over on stage the night before and broke his wrist- hence you see him with a sling and cast on his arm when singing in the Harlem church. There’s a great interview with the guys that was done on BBC Radio 1 around the time of the premier of Rattle & Hum in which Bono tells the story of how he did it. I’ve got a battered old copy on cassette tape (remember them!) but if anyone’s got it on mp3 I’d love to hear it again!? Didn’t he fall off stage Garth Per the credits at the end of the DVD: BB King and his Band (WLCTT) New Voices of Freedom (SHFWILF) The Memphis Horns (Angel of Harlem) Joseph M. Miskulin ( I think this may be the guy playing the harmonica and tamborine on ‘Freedom for My People’ in Harlem. Regarding the bit Freedom for My People, Bono seems to have some sort of brace or cast on his arm.  Anyone know the story behind that? Eric It’s just the band on their own,,, Garth Can someone help me and tell me who, on Pride in Rattle and Hum video sings with u2? Thanx Flo

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Think he fell over on stage the night before and broke his wrist- hence you see him with a sling and cast on his arm when singing in the Harlem church. There’s a great interview with the guys that was done on BBC Radio 1 around the time of the premier of Rattle & Hum in which Bono tells the story of how he did it. I’ve got a battered old copy on cassette tape (remember them!) but if anyone’s got it on mp3 I’d love to hear it again!?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Didn’t he fall off stage Garth Per the credits at the end of the DVD: BB King and his Band (WLCTT) New Voices of Freedom (SHFWILF) The Memphis Horns (Angel of Harlem) Joseph M. Miskulin ( I think this may be the guy playing the harmonica and tamborine on ‘Freedom for My People’ in Harlem. Regarding the bit Freedom for My People, Bono seems to have some sort of brace or cast on his arm.  Anyone know the story behind that? Eric It’s just the band on their own,,, Garth Can someone help me and tell me who, on Pride in Rattle and Hum video sings with u2? Thanx Flo

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Per the credits at the end of the DVD: BB King and his Band (WLCTT) New Voices of Freedom (SHFWILF) The Memphis Horns (Angel of Harlem) Joseph M. Miskulin ( I think this may be the guy playing the harmonica and tamborine on ‘Freedom for My People’ in Harlem. Regarding the bit Freedom for My People, Bono seems to have some sort of brace or cast on his arm.  Anyone know the story behind that? Eric

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s just the band on their own,,, Garth Can someone help me and tell me who, on Pride in Rattle and Hum video sings with u2? Thanx Flo

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Didn’t he fall off stage Garth

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Per the credits at the end of the DVD: BB King and his Band (WLCTT) New Voices of Freedom (SHFWILF) The Memphis Horns (Angel of Harlem) Joseph M. Miskulin ( I think this may be the guy playing the harmonica and tamborine on ‘Freedom for My People’ in Harlem. Regarding the bit Freedom for My People, Bono seems to have some sort of brace or cast on his arm.  Anyone know the story behind that? Eric It’s just the band on their own,,, Garth Can someone help me and tell me who, on Pride in Rattle and Hum video sings with u2? Thanx Flo

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It’s just the band on their own,,, Garth

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Actually , it’s for a contest and the question is : With which artist u2 play in a duo  Pride (in the name of love) a)Steve Vai b)BB King c) Eric Clapton. Can’t find no clue anywhere….. Flo

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Actually , it’s for a contest and the question is : With which artist u2 play in a duo  Pride (in the name of love) a)Steve Vai b)BB King c) Eric Clapton. Can’t find no clue anywhere…..

LOL! I can tell you no wow that all 3 of those are wrong. BB King played with U2 on "When Love Comes to Town" on Rattle & Hum. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flo

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maybe they meant the movie…. Hilde – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually , it’s for a contest and the question is : With which artist u2 play in a duo  Pride (in the name of love) a)Steve Vai b)BB King c) Eric Clapton. Can’t find no clue anywhere….. LOL! I can tell you no wow that all 3 of those are wrong. BB King played with U2 on "When Love Comes to Town" on Rattle & Hum. Flo

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B.B. King did play with them on "When Love Comes To Town" in the movie.  The only other guest singers in the movie were the Harlam Gospel Choir. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – maybe they meant the movie…. Hilde Actually , it’s for a contest and the question is : With which artist u2 play in a duo  Pride (in the name of love) a)Steve Vai b)BB King c) Eric Clapton. Can’t find no clue anywhere….. LOL! I can tell you no wow that all 3 of those are wrong. BB King played with U2 on "When Love Comes to Town" on Rattle & Hum. Flo

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Weren’t the Herlem gospel choir who performed with them on ‘I Still Haven’t Found…’ singing from the side of the stage? Or have I just completely made that up?!

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Can someone help me and tell me who, on Pride in Rattle and Hum video sings with u2? Thanx Flo

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<< I don’t think U2 are in New York, I think I heard that they are performing from the UK or Ireland (or somewhere else in Europe) via a satellite link-up…. I saw it said "Live – London" on the screen, and Bono said "Hello from London". — Andrea, The Proud U2 Fan

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Of course they’re playing "One". Don’t they always, in one form or the other. And you know during the intro Bono will go on talking for some time. But in case they don’t….. I guess they’d play Walk On or maybe even Pride (In The Name Of Love). We got pride!!!!!

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        I think Walk On is a good guess.  One is a good possablity as well. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My guess would be that they are going to play ‘walk on’

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Pride is for MLK, and unless they changed the lyrics it wouldnt make any sense. Expect them to play one of four songs…. New York (surprised it hasnt been mentioned yet) One Stuck In a Moment Walk On Then again they may play something new. I highly expect New York as thats where they are. Expect it to be something you’ve heard before and something that EVERYONE has heard before.

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Pride is for MLK, and unless they changed the lyrics it wouldnt make any sense.

Oh yeah, that’s true. Expect them to play one of four songs…. New York (surprised it hasnt been mentioned yet) One Stuck In a Moment Walk On

I think the like "you got yourself stuck in a moment" being played to the people of America, just doesn’t seem to fit. I mean, I could hear that coming from bum laden, but even though it is the single right now. I don’t think it would fit. humm…. New York. Good idea! Then again they may play something new. I highly expect New York as thats where they are.

True. But the show is being broadcasted outside of new york, and tragedy happened outside of new york also, of course.  Expect it to be something you’ve heard before and something that EVERYONE has heard before.

Yup. It’s nice to think they might reach back in the archives and pull something out of their vaults, but very unlikely.

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<<I highly expect New York as thats where they are. I don’t think U2 are in New York, I think I heard that they are performing from the UK or Ireland (or somewhere else in Europe) via a satellite link-up…. – Annie Vox )

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My guess would be that they are going to play ‘walk on’ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Woohoo! It wouldn’t have been a real fund raiser without them;)  Although the song One is the most likely choice, I wouldn’t mind hearing something different like North and South of the River, or Mother of the Dissappeared.  SBS might be misconstruded since the US is ready to wage an attack. If Peace on Earth was played, it would be the first live.  A really welcomed choice would be Please, cept this one didn’t gain mass US popularity even though it’s one of the best U2 songs. I’m getting the sense that the goal for this show will be to uplift/morn rather than debate or question. In the end, U2’s presense supercedes which song they will play. http://www.canoe.ca/Television/sep21_telethon4-ap.html sam.

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I’ll go with Peace On Earth       My guess would be that they are going to play ‘walk on’

  Woohoo!     It wouldn’t have been a real fund raiser without them;)  Although the   song One is the most likely choice, I wouldn’t mind hearing something   different like North and South of the River, or Mother of the   Dissappeared.  SBS might be misconstruded since the US is ready to wage   an attack.     If Peace on Earth was played, it would be the first live.  A really   welcomed choice would be Please, cept this one didn’t gain mass US   popularity even though it’s one of the best U2 songs.     I’m getting the sense that the goal for this show will be to uplift/morn   rather than debate or question.     In the end, U2’s presense supercedes which song they will play.     http://www.canoe.ca/Television/sep21_telethon4-ap.html     sam.  

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keyboard and typed: Woohoo! It wouldn’t have been a real fund raiser without them;)  Although the song One is the most likely choice, I wouldn’t mind hearing something different like North and South of the River, or Mother of the Dissappeared.  SBS might be misconstruded since the US is ready to wage an attack.

ITV (channel 3 in the UK for our colonial readers ) used "One" as the backing music to their trailer for the broadcast. It will be on at 2.00am UK time, so I’ll probably tape it rather than stay up, but it will be interesting to see what U2 do play. Mark — Visit Mark’s World at http://www.good-stuff.co.uk/mark/

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Woohoo! It wouldn’t have been a real fund raiser without them;)  Although the song One is the most likely choice, I wouldn’t mind hearing something different like North and South of the River, or Mother of the Dissappeared.  SBS might be misconstruded since the US is ready to wage an attack. If Peace on Earth was played, it would be the first live.  A really welcomed choice would be Please, cept this one didn’t gain mass US popularity even though it’s one of the best U2 songs. I’m getting the sense that the goal for this show will be to uplift/morn rather than debate or question. In the end, U2’s presense supercedes which song they will play. http://www.canoe.ca/Television/sep21_telethon4-ap.html sam.

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Also how many times did they appear on the programme..? I remember they

I believe U2 only appeared twice on the Old Grey Whistle Test, in 1980 and 1987. I Will Follow from that 1980 will be on the upcoming OGWT DVD. appeared just after the release of the Joshua Tree when the played ‘Exit’ and ‘In Gods Country’. Was this recorded in Belfast..? and they played other

Yep, 3-8-1987 songs to the audience that were never shown on TV – anyone remember/know what they were..?

U2 played a six-song set: – People Get Ready – Southern Man – Trip Through Your Wires – Exit – In God’s Country – Pride (In The Name Of Love) You can find this performance on the Four Wild Irish Roses – Part 2 bootleg. C ya! Marty

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Look at the details of the DVD given by amazon : http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005M6ON/oneworldtelec-21/… 7408-7968619 — Corinne http://www.u2achtung.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just looked at the BBC website listing for this week and U2 are not listed as performers on the Old Grey whistle test despite postings I’ve seen here. Also how many times did they appear on the programme..? I remember they appeared just after the release of the Joshua Tree when the played ‘Exit’ and ‘In Gods Country’. Was this recorded in Belfast..? and they played other songs to the audience that were never shown on TV – anyone remember/know what they were..?

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Just looked at the BBC website listing for this week and U2 are not listed as performers on the Old Grey whistle test despite postings I’ve seen here. Also how many times did they appear on the programme..? I remember they appeared just after the release of the Joshua Tree when the played ‘Exit’ and ‘In Gods Country’. Was this recorded in Belfast..? and they played other songs to the audience that were never shown on TV – anyone remember/know what they were..?

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hehehe thought you might notice the old surname there!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t heard them but they were supporting OCS in March (a gig I had a ticket for but never went to it  ) They sound pretty good according to folk I’ve spoke to. You recommend them then Bell?? Yes I would, "Jones"! ;o) Very much so! Go on – treat yourself to a download of David’s Soul and Personal Saviour – it’s top stuff! ))     – Chris )

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I forgive you. Go my son and say 10 Pride (In The Name Of Love)’s & 5 Beautiful Day’s. Jesus loves you!!

#I got to sayin’ goodbyyyyyyyyyeeeeeee, goodbyyyyyyyeee hoo-ooo-ooopppeee – Jesus loves you, save your soul!# Sorry, couldn’t resist. ;o) Normally I wouldn’t be too interested in anything with such overtly religious lyrics, but hey – Mo Solid Gold rock BIG TIME!!! Oooh, can’t wait for the album! Who’d have thought they used to be (Brighton’s own) These Animal Men?! ;o)     – Chris )

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I haven’t heard them but they were supporting OCS in March (a gig I had a ticket for but never went to it  ) They sound pretty good according to folk I’ve spoke to. You recommend them then Bell??

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I forgive you. Go my son and say 10 Pride (In The Name Of Love)’s & 5 Beautiful Day’s. Jesus loves you!! #I got to sayin’ goodbyyyyyyyyyeeeeeee, goodbyyyyyyyeee hoo-ooo-ooopppeee – Jesus loves you, save your soul!# Sorry, couldn’t resist. ;o) Normally I wouldn’t be too interested in anything with such overtly religious lyrics, but hey – Mo Solid Gold rock BIG TIME!!! Oooh, can’t wait for the album! Who’d have thought they used to be (Brighton’s own) These Animal Men?! ;o)     – Chris )

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I forgive you. Go my son and say 10 Pride (In The Name Of Love)’s & 5 Beautiful Day’s. Jesus loves you!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a dark and terrible secret. As a child I was severely deprived of music of any kind.  When I got a radio, this changed.  The first song I remember really loving was Ironic, but other than that, my favourite songs were from the Robson and Jerome album.  Unchained Melody, Up on the Roof etc. Then I saw NOW 36 in the shops for just ten pounds.  Ten pounds?  For an album with 40 songs on?  What a bargain I thought.  And WOW, it has the Spice Girls on (Oh Dear).  So I bought it, stuck it on and listened through the songs, which were from around 1997.  I loved CD 1, full of lovely pop songs like Mama etc. and even Ant and Dec’s song.  The I turned to CD2. it opened with Prodigy – Breathe.  What was this?  What are these shouty people doing?  Then it went to U2 Discotheque- Aaaaaaaargh, more fast music where you can’t hear the words.  What is this? Then Chemical Brothers, I exploded. I took the CD upstairs and re-programmed it on my computer NOT to play these three tracks. Anyway, time goes on and I rediscovered this CD when I got most of the U2 CDs within a day of each other (stone broke as Jimi Hendrix didn’t say). I stuck it on for Discotheque, and loved it.  Then I heard the intro to Breathe which is actually phenomonal.  Still don’t like the Chemical Brothers but there you go. Forgive me Father etc. Cheers MAC — David McNicoll Percy- "Oh, how I would have loved to be an actor. In my youth I was the man of a thousand faces." Blackadder- "How did you come to choose the ugly mug you’ve got now then?"

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I haven’t heard them but they were supporting OCS in March (a gig I had a ticket for but never went to it  ) They sound pretty good according to folk I’ve spoke to. You recommend them then Bell??

Yes I would, "Jones"! ;o) Very much so! Go on – treat yourself to a download of David’s Soul and Personal Saviour – it’s top stuff! ))     – Chris )

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<<Then I saw NOW 36 in the shops for just ten pounds.  Ten pounds?  For an album with 40 songs on?  What a bargain I thought.  And WOW, it has the Spice Girls on (Oh Dear).  So I bought it, stuck it on and listened through the songs, which were from around 1997.  I loved CD 1, full of lovely pop songs like Mama etc. and even Ant and Dec’s song. Haaaahahaha!  I got Now 36 and loved it too!  Heheheheheheeee…… <<The I turned to CD2.  it opened with Prodigy – Breathe.  What was this?  What are these shouty people doing?  Then it went to U2 Discotheque- Aaaaaaaargh, more fast music where you can’t hear the words.  What is this? Then Chemical Brothers, I exploded. I took the CD upstairs and re-programmed it on my computer NOT to play these three tracks. ****LMAO****, I can so relate to this…. I hated Discotheque when I first heard it!  "What the hell is this load of crap doing at Number 1? Why isn’t there a nice catchy pop song at No.1?"  I can vividly remember having those thoughts whilst watching the video on TOTP. I also vividly remember Bono’s groin-thrusting for some reason. <<Anyway, time goes on and I rediscovered this CD when I got most of the U2 CDs within a day of each other (stone broke as Jimi Hendrix didn’t say).  I stuck it on for Discotheque, and loved it. God, yeah!  When I started taking a vague interest in U2, I too went and dug out Now 36 and listened to Discotheque over and over again until I liked it!  I really *forced* myself to like it!  LOL…… well, it worked! ;o) <<Forgive me Father etc. And forgive me while you’re at it!! – Annie Vox )

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I have a dark and terrible secret. As a child I was severely deprived of music of any kind.  When I got a radio, this changed.  The first song I remember really loving was Ironic, but other than that, my favourite songs were from the Robson and Jerome album.  Unchained Melody, Up on the Roof etc. Then I saw NOW 36 in the shops for just ten pounds.  Ten pounds?  For an album with 40 songs on?  What a bargain I thought.  And WOW, it has the Spice Girls on (Oh Dear).  So I bought it, stuck it on and listened through the songs, which were from around 1997.  I loved CD 1, full of lovely pop songs like Mama etc. and even Ant and Dec’s song.  The I turned to CD2.  it opened with Prodigy – Breathe.  What was this?  What are these shouty people doing?  Then it went to U2 Discotheque- Aaaaaaaargh, more fast music where you can’t hear the words.  What is this? Then Chemical Brothers, I exploded. I took the CD upstairs and re-programmed it on my computer NOT to play these three tracks. Anyway, time goes on and I rediscovered this CD when I got most of the U2 CDs within a day of each other (stone broke as Jimi Hendrix didn’t say).  I stuck it on for Discotheque, and loved it.  Then I heard the intro to Breathe which is actually phenomonal.  Still don’t like the Chemical Brothers but there you go. Forgive me Father etc. Cheers MAC — David McNicoll Percy- "Oh, how I would have loved to be an actor. In my youth I was the man of a thousand faces." Blackadder- "How did you come to choose the ugly mug you’ve got now then?"

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An absolutely lovely post!!  Thank you.  : )  I haven’t read really anything about Ghandi, yet, in this life, so your insights are strongly appreciated in this little corner.  Great message.

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Sorry ’bout this folks.  I wrote something really good, somthing that moved *me* while writing it.  Call it ego, call it ‘pride’, but I want to give it its own header in case someone missed it.  I apologize, and to make up for it, I shall edit my post slightly for greater clarity.  Actually, I will make my original post a bit longer.  Sorry, messing up a good thing, no?

LeanMC, you are so cool.  Moved me too. Doc (sorry)

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messing up? play in the mud brother and… i don’t need to tell you, you are doing it quite help. m.p. In article Sorry ’bout this folks.  I wrote something really good, somthing that moved *me* while writing it.

if one person is moved, then why would not more people? a few is enough. enough is never too few in other words, there is room for many and not only in the popmarts and yet there too. ) m Call it ego, call it ‘pride’, but I want to give it its own header in case someone missed it.

may i call it good will? I apologize, and to make up for it, I shall edit my post slightly for greater clarity.  Actually, I will make my original post a bit longer.  Sorry, messing up a good thing, no?

sure, when you got a good thing, might as well mess it up a bit. you would not want for it to go static, would you now? Is there anyone who can explain the second verse of Pride in relation to the Irish troubles. I’ve heard someone talking about is but she couldn’t explain me exactly how. Is there anybody who knows more about this subject ?

i forgot the second verse.  hope i catch it next time i listen… that may be in a little while. so what’s the line ? i neeeeeeed to know;)  i could not explain the Irish troubles though. Even less than the Middle East ones.  but you know… i like to know…. may come in handy. what’s the second verse? Pim? anyone? Re: Middle East : i like falafel, it’s a food of the people, i remember eating it in Jerus. that’s in the middle east, yes? Its pretty hard to imagine a meaning for Pride that didn’t involve a reference to MLK jr, as well as other people who struggled to maintain love for people who treated them with hate.

" One man come in the name of love One man come and go       one irish man? One man come he to justify One man to overthrow "         wow! powerful , the poetry , the justice of it, the acting power in balance between justify and overthrow there are worlds inside worlds touching above the walls of water   )  The last line in the second verse, "one man betrayed with a kiss" is a pretty obvious allusion to Jesus.

Maybe . Probably. But i also think of all the other times when people found themselves betrayed by a kiss. what interests me now is how doe s  one reac t to betrayal? Does one betray one self then, by becoming smaller than what one could be. Jesus faced that temptation ,  Kazantzaki, in the Last Temptation of J-C, paints more of the picture than what used to be available. The character of Judah is quite an inspiration in the movie.  Things are not as simple as they have been told; that’s what the title Pride (In the name of love )))   points to .. King was inspired by the non-violent philosophy of Jesus

With the passion that ran through him, Martin Luther King was one with Jesus and Rabbi Joshua Heschel walked with the reverent King. Rather than "non violent philosophy" some may argue that another term could be used. In the last few days, the word ‘apologies’ was discussed at great length in 2 languages, then all around the world in other languages, and people saw the power that words can havee, when translation is effective. Makes me think that we need a bunch of new lawyers and of new translators. To translate is an extraordinary thing to do, i never had quite realized that but i did often think of the different translations of the Bible (old and new to illustrate the subtleties of words and presntation. Any way ,  i could go on, but verbal streams of consciousness call for silences and commas, or virgules if you speak French (well, and he thought that Jesus was God, too). I’m usually pretty anti-"what do the lyrics mean" but the allusion there is inescapable, so I’m just pointing it out.  Perhaps you could construct a meaning that would be better, but Jesus seems to be the obvious allusion.

the main one, maybe? Bono is into Jesus, that much he has not hidden Anyway, I always thought of Ghandi’s triumphant march to the sea

hummmmmmm yes, triumphant, here was a man in touch with a purpose also humble, very humble and friendly. at least this is how i have imagined him from the portrayal of the hero and saint and sage and … lawyer? in the movie  ’Gandhi ‘ when I heard the "one man washed up on an empty beach" line.  For those who didn’t know, Mohandas Ghandi was one of the people (along with Jesus and Thoreu) who inspired Dr. King’s philosophy of non-violent resistance.

Gandhi went fully into it.  As for Jesus, i think he was walking step by step, opening as much as he could to The Father. At those times He was in The Father , and The Father was in Him. This is how he attempted to describe that great light that he was able to vessel in adn stay connected with, from time to time. Like  several before and many after him, he did that and was able thus to bring a little bit of Heaven on Earth, and offered ‘the sparkle of it’ to those who had eyes to see. He paid a great price for his quest and devekut to G-d but he espoused his destiny of then and many others had led the way before him. Ghandi led India’s freedom movement against the British.  The British had a tax on salt,

and in America, a tax on tea, this tax business is so interesting to observe. Then and now , taxes. Add to that the stock market and you may see that the way of peace has gotten increasingly complicated ;                       but like before, fear and greed, economics and insanity , play a role in the need to shake off slavery. Which reminds me that i am in the middle of the Feast of Pesach. I want to jump on the rooftops and yell, L’Shanah habaha b’Yirushalayim , but big girls must not shout too loud Otherwise it could get quite loud… and only G-d may know what would happen then )) so Ghandi basically just made a march down to the ocean to make salt himself, to demonstrate self-sufficiency (a big Ghandian theme).

It took him a long time, and many years of marching alone in the name of justice to get to that point. It seems that many knew he was on his way, and many joined him, marched with him, like many are those who marched with MLK.  The fact that both those men and John F. Kennedy were assassinated does not speak well for the dirty politics of the 20th century. The 20th. century started officially the era of global politics. With the first world war it was sealed. People would need to sign treaties and meet . face to face.  human to human.   i feel that the peaceful resolution of a few of the differences that stood betwee4n  those 2 great powers, China and the United States is a great step in the right direction.   The time of diplomacy demands patience, respect and a desire to understand and learn from the one who is both a stranger and also a  sibling in the human family, the stranger in the mirror .   I believe that  adventure,  worthwhile challenges, expansion (all in the name of peace) will be available and that there will be opportunities to communicate and learn. Interesting , fascinating times we are living in.  At least this is my opinion.  LeanMc, you agree? Of course, Ghandi was already pretty famous by this time, so in every villiage he passed through, he gathered a bigger and bigger crowd.  By the time he made it to the beach, there were thousands with him, a

you could say it was a big party          if you know another language, see if you can translate this at least in 3 different ways . Here is my attempt:         vous pourriez dire que        

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Silver & Gold was a b-side at least

That’s the only b-side The album rocks ….  heartland is a superb song …:-) — ICQ#71229238 Homepage : http://holdmethrillmekissmeu2me.surft.nl

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<snip Of the remain 8 tracks 2 have nothing to do with U2: Freedom For My People The Star Spangled Banner

Wasn’t The Star Spangled Banner a cover song, too?  Or did they just play Hendrix’s version?  Maybe I’m giving Mr. The Edge too much credit . . .

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Wasn’t The Star Spangled Banner a cover song, too?  Or did they just play Hendrix’s version?  Maybe I’m giving Mr. The Edge too much credit . . .

It’s Jimi.

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Silver & Gold was a b-side at least That’s the only b-side The album rocks ….  heartland is a superb song …:-)

Heartland is beautiful and is even better when you’re watching the imagary on the movie!! Thats my fav part of the film

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I completely agree! And I didn’t think anyonelse noticed that the setting seemed to fit well. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Heartland is beautiful and is even better when you’re watching the imagary on the movie!! Thats my fav part of the film

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I can’t listen to the album without hearing ‘Yooo Edge’ thru it!! Magical part of R&H!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I completely agree! And I didn’t think anyonelse noticed that the setting seemed to fit well. Heartland is beautiful and is even better when you’re watching the imagary on the movie!! Thats my fav part of the film

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If they were released as singles (and four of them were), then they’re, by definition, A-Sides. Ah I see. So are we considering Rattle N Hum a compilation or a straight forward U2 album? I know Van Diemen’s Land wasnt a single, nor was it on another album, does that make it a B-Side? Same wtih Heartland.

I wouldn’t call them either; I’d call them album tracks.  To me, a B-side is the song on the back of a single, like "Alex Descends…" Your mileage may vary, though. Doug

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RATTLE & HUM – Well, dunno if there really is a bad track on here since it’s a combination of a live CD & b-sides…. B-sides? hmmmm….. good question…… are they considered B-Sides, what do you all think?

Silver & Gold was a b-side at least

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The only b-side on Rattle And Hum is Silver And Gold, which originally appeared as a b-side on the Where The Streets Have No Name single. Of the 17 tracks there are only 9 propper album/studio versions: Van Diemen’s Land (which is cut short) Desire Hawkmoon 269 Angel Of Harlem Love Rescue Me When Love Comes To Town Heatland God Part II All I Want Is You Of the remain 8 tracks 2 have nothing to do with U2: Freedom For My People The Star Spangled Banner The final 6 tracks are live and 2 are cover songs: Helter Skelter All Along The Watchtower Of the remaining 4 U2-original live tracks 3 are from previous albums: I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For Pride (In The Name Of Love) Bullet The Blue Sky The 1 remaining u2-original live track is a b-side from Where The Streets Have No Name: Silver And Gold As for what constitutes a b-side, a song must be on a single but not one the title/selling tracks.  For the Where The Streets Have No Name single there is 1 A-side (Where The Streets Have No Name) and 3 B-sides (Race Against Time, Silver And Gold, and Sweetest Thing).  Album tracks that are not A-side singles may also be b-sides themselves.  The In God’s Country single had 2 b-sides: Bullet The Blue Sky and Running To Stand Still.  In this case both b-sides are also album tracks, but this is a rarity.  Any other track on an album that is not an A-side is generally considered to be an "album track".  So for Rattle And Hum there are 5 studio-version album tracks: Van Diemen’s Land, Hawkmoon 269, Love Rescue Me,, Heatland, and God Part II. There are also rare occasions where a single may have 2 a-sides.  This is done when 2 tracks are being promoted equally.  The Beatles did this frequently.  U2 was involved in a double a-side recently.  There was U2’s Stay (Faraway, So Close!) and Bono and Frank Sinatra’s I’ve Got You Under My Skin.  Both tracks are listed on the cover and spine of the CD and both tracks received airplay and had videos. I hope this makes everything clear.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If they were released as singles (and four of them were), then they’re, by definition, A-Sides. Ah I see. So are we considering Rattle N Hum a compilation or a straight forward U2 album? I know Van Diemen’s Land wasnt a single, nor was it on another album, does that make it a B-Side? Same wtih Heartland.

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RATTLE & HUM – Well, dunno if there really is a bad track on here since it’s a combination of a live CD & b-sides…. B-sides?

hmmmm….. good question…… are they considered B-Sides, what do you all think?

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RATTLE & HUM – Well, dunno if there really is a bad track on here since it’s a combination of a live CD & b-sides…. B-sides? hmmmm….. good question…… are they considered B-Sides, what do you all think?

If they were released as singles (and four of them were), then they’re, by definition, A-Sides. Doug

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If they were released as singles (and four of them were), then they’re, by definition, A-Sides.

Ah I see. So are we considering Rattle N Hum a compilation or a straight forward U2 album? I know Van Diemen’s Land wasnt a single, nor was it on another album, does that make it a B-Side? Same wtih Heartland.

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