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http://www.u2sound.com Paul schrieb: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any U2 patches for a Zoom 707II. Cant find them on the web anywhere. If anyone can help me please email me taking out the NOSPAM of the email. Thanks Paul

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You can find hundreds of ZOOM patches and links to other sites here: http://www.hotlicks.co.uk

Thanks everyone..I’ll check out both links. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a Zoom (just bought it) What does patches do? I’m a beginner so just curious…:) If you find any can you let me know where you found them. Thanks

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Does anyone have any U2 patches for a Zoom 707II. Cant find them on the web anywhere. If anyone can help me please email me taking out the NOSPAM of the email. Thanks Paul

I have a Zoom (just bought it) What does patches do? I’m a beginner so just curious…:) If you find any can you let me know where you found them. Thanks

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You can find hundreds of ZOOM patches and links to other sites here: http://www.hotlicks.co.uk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a Zoom (just bought it) What does patches do? I’m a beginner so just curious…:) If you find any can you let me know where you found them. Thanks

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A patch probably just adjusts the settings of your Zoom pedal to a certain configuration.  That way, if you wanted the sound of U2’s Sunday Bloody Sunday, you download a patch that already has the settings in it for you. Line 6 uses the same type of ideas in their amps. Rick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any U2 patches for a Zoom 707II. Cant find them on the web anywhere. If anyone can help me please email me taking out the NOSPAM of the email. Thanks Paul I have a Zoom (just bought it) What does patches do? I’m a beginner so just curious…:) If you find any can you let me know where you found them. Thanks

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Does anyone have any U2 patches for a Zoom 707II. Cant find them on the web anywhere. If anyone can help me please email me taking out the NOSPAM of the email. Thanks Paul

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If you join this Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/U2_recording/ You’ll find a whole bunch of people who can help with this kind of advice. Does anyone have any U2 patches for a Zoom 707II. Cant find them on the web anywhere. If anyone can help me please email me taking out the NOSPAM of the email. Thanks Paul

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I am looking for some good songs  to put on my MP3 player when I go run, especially for when I have to use my treadmill. Thanks. Kristine

Kristine, Sound track to Run Lola Run Kate Bush Glenn Gould playing Bach – good for long runs Cameron

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Do a Google search in this newsgroup but I will add a couple: Rush – Limelight Rush – Closer to the Heart Sammy Haggar – I Can’t Drive 55 Van Halen – Panama Bruce Springsteen – Born in the USA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for some good songs  to put on my MP3 player when I go run, especially for when I have to use my treadmill. Thanks. Kristine Kristine, Sound track to Run Lola Run Kate Bush Glenn Gould playing Bach – good for long runs Cameron

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highway to hell ac/dc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for some good songs  to put on my MP3 player when I go run, especially for when I have to use my treadmill. Thanks. Kristine

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"100 Miles and Running" by N.W.A.  "I’m also not very analytical. You know I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things."

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:18:20 -0700, "Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ability" <Departm…@fKeepingItReal.gov> wrote: >Oscar-winning director John Schlesinger died Friday morning at 5:30 >a.m. in Palm Springs, Calif., after a prolonged illness. The openly >gay filmmaker’s cinematic output included such classics as Midnight >Cowboy, Marathon Man, The Day of the Locust, Darling, Far From the >Madding Crowd, Cold Comfort Farm, and Sunday Bloody Sunday. >Schlesinger received his first Academy Award nomination for best >director for his fourth film, Darling (1965), and went on to win the >trophy for his 1969 Midnight Cowboy. He was nominated again two years >later for Sunday Bloody Sunday. All three films broke ground in the >presentation of gay characters and themes in mainstream cinema. >Schlesinger grew up in Hampstead, England, and studied English >literature at Oxford, where he also acted in several university >productions. Professionally, he began acting with several repertory >companies and worked in numerous television productions. (Years later, >even after establishing himself as a major filmmaker, he continued to >act in such films as Twilight of the Golds and The Lost Language of >Cranes.) >He made several short films for the BBC, including the acclaimed >documentary Terminus, about a day in the life of a train station. That >film won several awards and led to the making of Schlesinger’s first >feature, A Kind of Loving, starring Alan Bates. His next film, Billy >Liar, gave Julie Christie her first leading role in a feature. She >would go on to win a best actress Oscar for her work in Schlesinger’s >Darling. Other films directed by Schlesinger include Yanks, An >Englishman Abroad (about actress Coral Browne’s Moscow encounter with >defected gay British spy Guy Burgess), The Falcon and the Snowman, The >Believers, Madame Souzatska, The Innocent, Pacific Heights, and Eye >for an Eye. Schlesinger’s last feature was The Next Best Thing, >starring Madonna and Rupert Everett, about a straight woman and her >gay best friend and their adventures in parenthood. >In a statement Richard Gere noted, "John was the best, and the best >always wanted to work with him. As a young actor I considered it an >enormous privilege to be in Yanks. I still consider it one of my very >best films. John’s string of films in the ’60s and ’70s are as >astonishingly good as any film made–anytime, anywhere…audacious, >challenging, irascible, moving, witty, wise, and deeply personal. He >was an original." >In 1970 Schlesinger was made CBE (Commander of the British Empire) by >Queen Elizabeth II. He is survived by his partner of 30 years, >photographer Michael Childers; his brother, Roger Schlesinger; and his >sister, Hilary Schlesinger. There will be a private Jewish memorial >service in London for family next week. There will be public memorials >in Los Angeles and London in late September. >Donations in Schlesinger’s memory may be made to Project Angel Food in >Los Angeles or the Motion Picture and Television Fund in Woodland >Hills, Calif.

I take it this wasn’t Dr. Laura’s ex?

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That gent shall be missed. OTS "Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing Ability" <Departm…@fKeepingItReal.gov> wrote in message

news:cNxUa.19526$Je.18285@fed1read04… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oscar-winning director John Schlesinger died Friday morning at 5:30 > a.m. in Palm Springs, Calif., after a prolonged illness. The openly > gay filmmaker’s cinematic output included such classics as Midnight > Cowboy, Marathon Man, The Day of the Locust, Darling, Far From the > Madding Crowd, Cold Comfort Farm, and Sunday Bloody Sunday. > Schlesinger received his first Academy Award nomination for best > director for his fourth film, Darling (1965), and went on to win the > trophy for his 1969 Midnight Cowboy. He was nominated again two years > later for Sunday Bloody Sunday. All three films broke ground in the > presentation of gay characters and themes in mainstream cinema. > Schlesinger grew up in Hampstead, England, and studied English > literature at Oxford, where he also acted in several university > productions. Professionally, he began acting with several repertory > companies and worked in numerous television productions. (Years later, > even after establishing himself as a major filmmaker, he continued to > act in such films as Twilight of the Golds and The Lost Language of > Cranes.) > He made several short films for the BBC, including the acclaimed > documentary Terminus, about a day in the life of a train station. That > film won several awards and led to the making of Schlesinger’s first > feature, A Kind of Loving, starring Alan Bates. His next film, Billy > Liar, gave Julie Christie her first leading role in a feature. She > would go on to win a best actress Oscar for her work in Schlesinger’s > Darling. Other films directed by Schlesinger include Yanks, An > Englishman Abroad (about actress Coral Browne’s Moscow encounter with > defected gay British spy Guy Burgess), The Falcon and the Snowman, The > Believers, Madame Souzatska, The Innocent, Pacific Heights, and Eye > for an Eye. Schlesinger’s last feature was The Next Best Thing, > starring Madonna and Rupert Everett, about a straight woman and her > gay best friend and their adventures in parenthood. > In a statement Richard Gere noted, "John was the best, and the best > always wanted to work with him. As a young actor I considered it an > enormous privilege to be in Yanks. I still consider it one of my very > best films. John’s string of films in the ’60s and ’70s are as > astonishingly good as any film made–anytime, anywhere…audacious, > challenging, irascible, moving, witty, wise, and deeply personal. He > was an original." > In 1970 Schlesinger was made CBE (Commander of the British Empire) by > Queen Elizabeth II. He is survived by his partner of 30 years, > photographer Michael Childers; his brother, Roger Schlesinger; and his > sister, Hilary Schlesinger. There will be a private Jewish memorial > service in London for family next week. There will be public memorials > in Los Angeles and London in late September. > Donations in Schlesinger’s memory may be made to Project Angel Food in > Los Angeles or the Motion Picture and Television Fund in Woodland > Hills, Calif.

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Oscar-winning director John Schlesinger died Friday morning at 5:30 a.m. in Palm Springs, Calif., after a prolonged illness. The openly gay filmmaker’s cinematic output included such classics as Midnight Cowboy, Marathon Man, The Day of the Locust, Darling, Far From the Madding Crowd, Cold Comfort Farm, and Sunday Bloody Sunday. Schlesinger received his first Academy Award nomination for best director for his fourth film, Darling (1965), and went on to win the trophy for his 1969 Midnight Cowboy. He was nominated again two years later for Sunday Bloody Sunday. All three films broke ground in the presentation of gay characters and themes in mainstream cinema. Schlesinger grew up in Hampstead, England, and studied English literature at Oxford, where he also acted in several university productions. Professionally, he began acting with several repertory companies and worked in numerous television productions. (Years later, even after establishing himself as a major filmmaker, he continued to act in such films as Twilight of the Golds and The Lost Language of Cranes.) He made several short films for the BBC, including the acclaimed documentary Terminus, about a day in the life of a train station. That film won several awards and led to the making of Schlesinger’s first feature, A Kind of Loving, starring Alan Bates. His next film, Billy Liar, gave Julie Christie her first leading role in a feature. She would go on to win a best actress Oscar for her work in Schlesinger’s Darling. Other films directed by Schlesinger include Yanks, An Englishman Abroad (about actress Coral Browne’s Moscow encounter with defected gay British spy Guy Burgess), The Falcon and the Snowman, The Believers, Madame Souzatska, The Innocent, Pacific Heights, and Eye for an Eye. Schlesinger’s last feature was The Next Best Thing, starring Madonna and Rupert Everett, about a straight woman and her gay best friend and their adventures in parenthood. In a statement Richard Gere noted, "John was the best, and the best always wanted to work with him. As a young actor I considered it an enormous privilege to be in Yanks. I still consider it one of my very best films. John’s string of films in the ’60s and ’70s are as astonishingly good as any film made–anytime, anywhere…audacious, challenging, irascible, moving, witty, wise, and deeply personal. He was an original." In 1970 Schlesinger was made CBE (Commander of the British Empire) by Queen Elizabeth II. He is survived by his partner of 30 years, photographer Michael Childers; his brother, Roger Schlesinger; and his sister, Hilary Schlesinger. There will be a private Jewish memorial service in London for family next week. There will be public memorials in Los Angeles and London in late September. Donations in Schlesinger’s memory may be made to Project Angel Food in Los Angeles or the Motion Picture and Television Fund in Woodland Hills, Calif.

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When the Popmart tours hit Rotterdam, U2 played a Led Zeppelin song and the other day Radar Love (Golden Earring). What special songs did they perform during this Karaoke Set where Edge was playing? Marcel

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Daydream believer (Monkees) Most of the time!! Sweet Caroline (Neil Diamond) New york, New York (Frank Sinatra) San Franscisco Suspicious minds (presley version) I love you love (Monkees) Radar love (Golden Earring) Singing in the rain   Born to be wild (in Warsaw) (Steppenwolf) Whiskey in the Jar (Thin Lizzy) Sailing (Rod Steward) Sugar Sugar (Monkees (I think)) Macarena (In Barcelona, the audience didn’t appreciate it much though) Dancing Queen (Abba) Did I miss out on anything? Sunday Bloody Sunday took over the karaoke set eventually. Greetings John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When the Popmart tours hit Rotterdam, U2 played a Led Zeppelin song and the other day Radar Love (Golden Earring). What special songs did they perform during this Karaoke Set where Edge was playing? Marcel

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In Mannheim (Germany, 31.07.) the Edge played "Singing in the Rain", because the weather was just suckie in 1997 at this time. Regards Ralph PS: I have this show on CD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When the Popmart tours hit Rotterdam, U2 played a Led Zeppelin song and the other day Radar Love (Golden Earring). What special songs did they perform during this Karaoke Set where Edge was playing? Marcel

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Hi Beth, I *care*. I am hearing you, and sending you a virtual hand to hold, or even a *safe* hug across the oceans to you. I don’t know too much about bulimia, but I do know about emotions and trying to keep from feeling. Usually I would have lots to offer and say here, but I am on an emotionally blank phase at the moment (some how I have just shut down). So just posting to say I am *here* with you. Peace and Light, Jessica.

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Hi Beth, I know what you are feeling.  I’ve been there many times.  Gosh, it drives me crazy just thinking about the way I feel during a day of binging.  It’s the worst feeling.  I’m sorry you are having a rough time.   You can pull yourself out of it though.  When the binging is done, notice that the feelings remain?  It sometimes helps me to stop myself and think logically about it.  I’ve actually sat and had conversations with myself, where I"ll say " now koosh, if you binge and purge right now you’re only going to feel worse, and put off dealing with something you can’t escape anyways.  So why not just deal with it now and get it over with?" I know this sounds lame, but it actually has helped me a few times.  I just try and picture myself, and how I always feel after a binge… and how aweful it is… and by trying to put myself in that moment, I am able to rationalize that ‘its not worth it’. I don’t know if this helps you at all, and if it doesn’t I’m sorry.  I just wanted to let you know that I’m thinking of you and I hope tomorrow is better than today. Koosh

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Will spoiler just in case. Talk of bingeing and general associated emotions # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # I’m really struggling to bring my binge to an end. Over the last 11 hours i have consumed shit-loads of food. I don’t want to stop it because i don’t want to feel the emotions i am trying to block out but at the same time, I so desperately want to stop eating and vomiting and go to bed. but the emotions are still peeking through even as i eat and type. i hate this i hate my life with the bingeing i want to die no, i want to escape  - get off the scene for a while can#t stand this nobody cares sorry guys not even sure why i am posting this Beth x

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Jessica Thanks for caring. It helps a lot to know that there is someone out there, listening and understanding. My friend Kate still hasn’t text me back or sent me an email. That is really unusual of her. It leaves me thinking that she is a) struggling herself, b) too busy to text or email (tho how long does it take to text?)  or c) she is finding it too difficult to support me or d) she doesn’t care. I find d) hard to believe so i’m wondering if the txts and emails are getting through or if she has  been admitted as an emergency? I could phone her but if i do, and it’s just that she’s been busy, i’ll upset her. but then again, i have been feeling let down and abandoned. not that I could ever tell her that. it’s not her job to support me. a couple of other friends haven’t responded to texts and i can’t help wondering…… my phone is working. it’s not that. oh damn it. will have to phone them. not that i feel up to talking to them right now but i just wouldn’t feel so alone. Sorry Jessica. Got a bit off track. Just to make the point that I appreciate the support of all on ased. it helps Hugs Beth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I *care*. I am hearing you, and sending you a virtual hand to hold, or even a *safe* hug across the oceans to you. I don’t know too much about bulimia, but I do know about emotions and trying to keep from feeling. Usually I would have lots to offer and say here, but I am on an emotionally blank phase at the moment (some how I have just shut down). So just posting to say I am *here* with you. Peace and Light, Jessica.

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Keeping spoiler  # – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # I’m really struggling to bring my binge to an end. Over the last 11 hours i have consumed shit-loads of food. I don’t want to stop it because i don’t want to feel the emotions i am trying to block out but at the same time, I so desperately want to stop eating and vomiting and go to bed. but the emotions are still peeking through even as i eat and type.

((((Beth)))) I wish I could suggest something but I am going through the same thing myself – B/P’d yesterday & am doing the same thing today whilst reading The Sunday Times – loads of stuff about the war making me feel really guilty and self obsessed.  Sometimes I hate living by myself and in the centre of town b/c it makes it too easy to B/P – there is a Co-op around the corner from me and it is open from 7-11 every day.  Damn those food-pushers.  Today I went in there and they were playing ‘Sunday, Bloody Sunday’. So, you see, I can’t offer any advice atm only empathy (fwiw). ‘rie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keeping spoiler  # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # I’m really struggling to bring my binge to an end. Over the last 11 hours i have consumed shit-loads of food. I don’t want to stop it because i don’t want to feel the emotions i am trying to block out but at the same time, I so desperately want to stop eating and vomiting and go to bed. but the emotions are still peeking through even as i eat and type. ((((Beth)))) I wish I could suggest something but I am going through the same thing myself – B/P’d yesterday & am doing the same thing today whilst reading The Sunday Times – loads of stuff about the war making me feel really guilty and self obsessed.  Sometimes I hate living by myself and in the centre of town b/c it makes it too easy to B/P – there is a Co-op around the corner from me and it is open from 7-11 every day.  Damn those food-pushers.  Today I went in there and they were playing ‘Sunday, Bloody Sunday’. So, you see, I can’t offer any advice atm only empathy (fwiw).

Sorry you are going through the same thing. Anything good in the sunday times? I miss  that – reading the sunday times. my parents get it and it reminds me of home. I hate those food-pushers too! One of my local corner shops actually opens at 4am! Then again there is also that 24hr tesco tho that is a little further away. I am glad i don’t have a car because it means it takes more effort to go to a supermarket/food shop when i am bingeing. Still, I usually manage it. Hate to think how much money i waste on food.  : ( btw what does fwiw mean? oh – for what it’s worth? it’s worth a lot. The very fact that you replied means loads. Hope that you can find some small way of making yourself feel better today. Even if it’s a walk, a face mask, reading a good book, writing a poem etc. Hark at me. I should take my own advice. Ironic Hugs Beth

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Hey Koosh Thanks for the email. I slept for 11 hours (one of my all time records i think – an indication of how run down i am right now maybe?) and it was really great to see a few posts on ased. Much appreciated. (((((((((((((((((((((((((( Koosh and ased ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I know this sounds lame, but it actually has helped me a few times.  I just try and picture myself, and how I always feel after a binge… and how aweful it is… and by trying to put myself in that moment, I am able to rationalize that ‘its not worth it’.

I have thought things like that before. You know, when trying to come up with binge-prevention tactics. But i find it so hard to take even ten seconds to think these things through. It’s so hard to catch yourself during that urge to binge-start binge cross-roads – you know when teetering on the edge – before the binge actually starts? But i will try. I must. I can’t cope with this continueing much longer. I don’t know if this helps you at all, and if it doesn’t I’m sorry.  I just wanted to let you know that I’m thinking of you and I hope tomorrow is better than today.

Thanks. I am on a late shift today. Work is causing me a huge problem in terms of bingeing because i am confronted with lots of food at mealtimes/access to food at all times. In case i never mentioned it, i am a health care assistant with the elderly. at mealtimes there are masses of leftovers and I find that such a problem. at other times, there is always food around. work used to be a safe place. I never binged there but now i rarely get through a shift without starting a binge. i try to reduce the chance of picking at anything, by chewing gum, but i inevitably take it out at some point to have a drink, and then don’t put another piece in. Or I get hungry and i can’t resist any more. i know that if i got caught by a senior manager i could lose my job, but they are not around very often. i hate myself for bingeing at work. it distracts me from a job i love and i hate it. we’ll just have to see how things go. Hugs Beth

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – t’s so hard to catch yourself during that urge to binge-start binge cross-roads – you know when teetering on the edge – before the binge actually starts? Try this: Set a timer for five minutes. Sit down and talk to yourself (out loud if you are someplace private) as though you were a dear friend who is about to start bingeing. Give yourself the same supportive words you would give your dearest friend. (That’s why talking out loud is best-you can talk over the mean voice inside your head.) Try to convince your dear friend how much she means to you and how much you care for her. No guilt, no shame, no harsh words AT ALL! When the timer goes off, let your dearest friend (you) decide what she wants to do. She may want another 5 minutes listening to what you have to say, or she may decide to binge, or she may decide to do something else for a while. Be loving about whatever her choice is. The purpose is to delay, for a brief time, so you can make a choice from a position of self-love, or at least self-neutral. You don’t have to not binge, just be clear about why you’re doing it, and that it’s what you want to do because you choose to, not because it’s a reflex reaction to a situation.

Hey Risa Thanks for the timer thing. i think that iwill try that some time. Don’t think it’s quite suited to the middle of a shift at work but will try it this week when i go home. I might adapt it slightly – five mins journalling or something. Then maybe trying different activities for five mins each or something. But it’s a great idea. Hugs Beth

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Beth, t’s so hard to catch yourself during that urge to binge-start binge cross-roads – you know when teetering on the edge – before the binge actually starts?

Try this: Set a timer for five minutes. Sit down and talk to yourself (out loud if you are someplace private) as though you were a dear friend who is about to start bingeing. Give yourself the same supportive words you would give your dearest friend. (That’s why talking out loud is best-you can talk over the mean voice inside your head.) Try to convince your dear friend how much she means to you and how much you care for her. No guilt, no shame, no harsh words AT ALL! When the timer goes off, let your dearest friend (you) decide what she wants to do. She may want another 5 minutes listening to what you have to say, or she may decide to binge, or she may decide to do something else for a while. Be loving about whatever her choice is. The purpose is to delay, for a brief time, so you can make a choice from a position of self-love, or at least self-neutral. You don’t have to not binge, just be clear about why you’re doing it, and that it’s what you want to do because you choose to, not because it’s a reflex reaction to a situation. Risa Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but you still can’t help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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You know, new bee that you are, after re-reading your replies, you remind me of another nefarious individual who was banished from this ng.

Google this one, Dana, and you’ll see that he or she hangs out in  a lot of political newsgroups.   Unfortunate that he or she decided to troll us, too…. –Connie "Starving the flesh wastes the spirit." –Kandis Elliot

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sounds like some of the binging is simply due to you getting hungry and not allowing yourself to eat a real meal.  From experience I can say that it’s a lot harder to deal with mental and emotional stress when I haven’t been eating appropriate-sized real meals.  If I eat regularly I don’t have the physical symptoms of hunger spurring me on along with the mental/emotional stuff that makes me want to binge.  Right now I’m trying to follow a set eating plan given to me by my nutritionist.  It’s only been a short time that I’ve been following this, though, so I’m not really sure how it’s all going to work out in the end, but I do find that it’s something of a mental relief having some kind of sensible structure to work with *given to me by a knowledgable third party* rather than "made up" by me with my disordered ways of dealing with food and eating. Laura

nice advice thanx, i will be a force again as soon as i have dispatched the non-believers and infidels into recognition of themselves, in the meantime if you are partial to the upcoming  holidays, celebrate largely and revel in your management compus mentus.

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Sounds like some of the binging is simply due to you getting hungry and not allowing yourself to eat a real meal.

 From experience I can say that it’s a lot harder to deal with mental and emotional stress when I haven’t been eating appropriate-sized real meals.  If I eat regularly I don’t have the physical symptoms of hunger spurring me on along with the mental/emotional stuff that makes me want to binge.  Right now I’m trying to follow a set eating plan given to me by my nutritionist.  It’s only been a short time that I’ve been following this, though, so I’m not really sure how it’s all going to work out in the end, but I do find that it’s something of a mental relief having some kind of sensible structure to work with *given to me by a knowledgable third party* rather than "made up" by me with my disordered ways of dealing with food and eating. Laura

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Beth I feel for you and wish I could help….I hate hate hate that moment between knowing you are going to binge/purge and wanting to stop and starting doing it and wish I knew what "magical" thing to do or say to myself in that moment to make myself not do it. Its so hard. Re: binging at work, one thing that has helped me is to allow myself to binge after work or when I get home…if I think about that while I am at work if helps me and I am not so panicked as I know I am allowed to do it later on. I know that in a perfect world you would not binge ever but its not a perfect world and admitting to myself that I am not perfect and am still going to binge sometimes has helped me a lot. Make sure that you are eating healthy meals or snacks at work throughout the day. Sounds like some of the binging is simply due to you getting hungry and not allowing yourself to eat a real meal. Love ag – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Koosh Thanks for the email. I slept for 11 hours (one of my all time records i think – an indication of how run down i am right now maybe?) and it was really great to see a few posts on ased. Much appreciated. (((((((((((((((((((((((((( Koosh and ased ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I know this sounds lame, but it actually has helped me a few times.  I  just try and picture myself, and how I always feel after a binge… and how aweful  it is… and by trying to put myself in that moment, I am able to rationalize  that ‘its not worth it’. I have thought things like that before. You know, when trying to come up with binge-prevention tactics. But i find it so hard to take even ten seconds to think these things through. It’s so hard to catch yourself during that urge to binge-start binge cross-roads – you know when teetering on the edge – before the binge actually starts? But i will try. I must. I can’t cope with this continueing much longer. I don’t know if this helps you at all, and if it doesn’t I’m sorry.  I  just wanted to let you know that I’m thinking of you and I hope tomorrow is  better than today. Thanks. I am on a late shift today. Work is causing me a huge problem in terms of bingeing because i am confronted with lots of food at mealtimes/access to food at all times. In case i never mentioned it, i am a health care assistant with the elderly. at mealtimes there are masses of leftovers and I find that such a problem. at other times, there is always food around. work used to be a safe place. I never binged there but now i rarely get through a shift without starting a binge. i try to reduce the chance of picking at anything, by chewing gum, but i inevitably take it out at some point to have a drink, and then don’t put another piece in. Or I get hungry and i can’t resist any more. i know that if i got caught by a senior manager i could lose my job, but they are not around very often. i hate myself for bingeing at work. it distracts me from a job i love and i hate it. we’ll just have to see how things go. Hugs Beth

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Beth, I meant to add that if you have a retainer or other dental appliance for at work, it might be a better deterrent than gum. You can drink with it in your mouth, but purging with it in wouldn’t be good. Risa Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but you still can’t help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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did this one sneak past your killfile?

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and I came here to get support for an eating problem i am having that manifested in some dreams

Well, if you had posted an actual introductory post instead of some weird dream thing in the midst of a thread, a total nonsequitur  which made no sense whatsoever, I suspect that things would have gone much more smoothly for you…..    Then again, maybe not.  Some of your posts don’t make much sense…. –Connie "Starving the flesh wastes the spirit." –Kandis Elliot

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Google this one, Dana, and you’ll see that he or she hangs out in  a lot of political newsgroups

so what you are saying is people with political opinions cannot have eating disorders? or that people who have posted to other newsgroups are not allowed to post on ased?  once you have posted, you are barred for life from seeking support here? Didn’t see THAT in the faq did see in the faq that once you have admitted your eating disorder of whatever quality, you are permitted to go off topic and speak about anything else you wish it took me quite a bit to start talking about it here, but boy what is the point when you have a nasty attack troll at  you calling you names I got more support on alt.politics.bush at least they discussed things there

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You know, new bee that you are, after re-reading your replies, you remind me of another nefarious individual who was banished from this ng. Google this one, Dana, and you’ll see that he or she hangs out in  a lot of political newsgroups.   Unfortunate that he or she decided to troll us, too

sure connie, I talk about politics in the politics groups.   not much of a troll and I came here to get support for an eating problem i am having that manifested in some dreams and instead i find an attack troll named connie who insultes, harrasses and upsets people who are having problems you are the troll connie.  I am on board with Lea 15,  little clixpix troll…you are an attack troll who has no solace to offer, especially to unfortunate lurkers who really do need to have their hand hell. you phony little troll connie.  this is not a support group to you, this is your troll and attack group silly little clixpix troll

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yes he definately had tears in his eyes…… cry baby ;) Good performance by the band.  Bono sounded great, although nervous.  I liked the altered verse at the end and Larry’s little bit of Sunday Bloody Sunday at the end.  And did anyone else think Daniel Day Lewis was about to cry?

I can’t believe Marshal Mathers won a fucking Oscar. I was okay with the fact that U2 didn’t win… would have liked to have seen them get it, but being nominated has to be a wonderful thing.  But to lose it to that dumb ass? Holy shit!! And yes, the Sunday Bloody Sunday thing was rather interesting. –Brian

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Thanks for the link! Unfortunately, it’s no good anymore…: error 404: Datei nicht gefunden! Das angegebene Dokument konnte auf diesem Server leider nicht gefunden werden. Thats the error message I received. Later Kelly http://www.all-i-want-is-u2.de/oscar.mpg — Joker www.u2street.net

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Tony, I know you like great food, much like me :) .  When I was brown bagging it to school I had some real creative stuff I would take.  Of course if you have a microwave at work that you can get to, that helps.  If not, there are hot packs you can buy for the insulated carry bag.  I used to also sometimes use a good thermos for some hot soup (low point vegetable for instance). One of my favorites was a thermos of low point soup, some home baked bread with a low point filler such as sliced veggies (bagged separate and added right before eating) and maybe some of that turkey or veggie bologna or ham…  and some baked chips.  Very filling, very good.. people always wanted my lunch.  Creole shrimp travels well in a thermos, or gumbo made with Zatarains seasoning 80 cal 0 fat per prepared cup for the mix alone, with enough veggies (okra, celery, whatever) and crawfish tails or little shrimp to make a 2 cup serving for 3 or 4 points(the additions add to fiber and bulk without adding many points).  I would take a chunk of good home baked whole wheat french bread with that.  I kept a big container of broccoli, cauliflower florets and prepared carrot sticks in the fridge that I would make up over the weekend.  Sounds like you don’t have a weekend, but maybe Amy would help?  I also have some recipes for some low fat fruit cake type bars that come out to 2 points each that are very good.  My bud in South Carolina that was visiting insisted I make her some more and send them.  She claims they were the reason for her 2 pound loss after visiting me at thanksgiving.  She ate 2 of em for her dinner at night. :)  I think it was the calories she burned with ole Billy Banks myself, mostly from watching the muscles ripple.  That does a lot for middle aged ladies like us.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions. I’ve about decided to give up eating the employee meals, and pretty much just use the place for salads. It’s going to mean a bit more work and planning, but I’m worth it. Amy had an extra one of those square, vinyl-looking insulated zipper bag thingy’s that I can use to transport any number of things, and we’re well stocked in Tupperware! <g WI is tomorrow morning. I’m curious to see what that says…. Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246 Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span.

Hard, cold data is power.   Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g

Sounds good to me!  Here are some of my recent breakfasts from my journal: 12/7: Dr. Praeger Veggie burger and collard greens (Sylvia’s brand, canned) [2.5pts] 12/6: 2.6 oz slice of bacon, roasted pepper and goat cheese pizza (leftover from California Pizza Kitchen) and 1 veggie burger [5.5pts] 12/5: 2.5 oz slice of CPK pizza and 3oz vietnamese shrimp rice paper rolls (leftover appetizer from CPK) [6.5pts] 12/4: 1/2 pkg of aloo matar (indian peas and potates) and 2 oz of chicken teriaki (prepared, from deli) [5 pts] oh, wait, here you go, Tony: 12/2: HMR Vegetable Stew with Beef [3pts] As you can see, I don’t believe in breakfast foods.  I never understood why we eat dessert for breakfast (pancakes in syrup, donuts) or plain eggs, sausage and bacon. I need more spiciness, and more variety. Thyme 236/185/158

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Obviously you need to bring some stuff from home. Consider something like breakfast bars or granola bars – you can have a box in your desk or locker and they come in 2 to 3 point sizes. They kind of double as breakfast or lunch and can be grabbed on the run even if you don’t have a break. Then you won’t get as hungry in-between and can spread the points out more. Think about using the cafeteria selectively. What do they have that can fit into the program? Maybe soup and a bun? Then supplement this with things from home – low fat cheese slices to make a sandwich out of that bun, for example. When you get off at the end of that day and don’t feel like cooking, that’s the time to have a casserole in the freezer that you can just nuke and serve, or have some super-easy 15 minute meals at home. One favourite of mine is baked fish fillets (get the frozen ones that are not deep fried and some are only 3 points per filet) with oven-baked low-fat fries and a tin of free veggies (eg green beans, beets). Pitch the fish and chips on a baking sheet, heat the veggies while it’s cooking, eat for about 6 points. elaine

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I like elaine’s idea about using the cafeteria selectively. Is there anything they always have that you could use? Short of that brown-bagging it or bringing some snacks or meals from home seems like the way to go. — Joy 285/249.4/150 Started WW At Home 1/1/02 at 285 Joined WW At Work 9/24/02 at 264.4 *New 10% Target: 26 (238.4)*

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Obviously you need to bring some stuff from home. Consider something like breakfast bars or granola bars – you can have a box in your desk or locker and they come in 2 to 3 point sizes. They kind of double as breakfast or lunch and can be grabbed on the run even if you don’t have a break. Then you won’t get as hungry in-between and can spread the points out more. Think about using the cafeteria selectively. What do they have that can fit into the program? Maybe soup and a bun? Then supplement this with things from home – low fat cheese slices to make a sandwich out of that bun, for example. When you get off at the end of that day and don’t feel like cooking, that’s the time to have a casserole in the freezer that you can just nuke and serve, or have some super-easy 15 minute meals at home. One favourite of mine is baked fish fillets (get the frozen ones that are not deep fried and some are only 3 points per filet) with oven-baked low-fat fries and a tin of free veggies (eg green beans, beets). Pitch the fish and chips on a baking sheet, heat the veggies while it’s cooking, eat for about 6 points. elaine

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Hi Tony. I would take some meals & snacks with me. You can have 4 or 5 meals a day, but you must really plan your menu when you do this. Wish you luck. Elaine K 331.4/205.0/179 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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You are very welcome.  I took out everything I could and still have it come out decent, it is not too sweet so be sure to put in the glaze.  If you use sugar for the bar instead of splenda it adds a point per bar for the 32 if you cut them like that.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got this out of an old cookbook and renovated it.  The original is a german bar cookie called Leckerli. 1/2 cup splenda (the one that measures like sugar) 1/2 cup honey 3/4 teaspoon cloves (I hate clove, used allspice instead) 2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1/2 tsp ginger 3 oz candied fruit, whatever you like best, I used cherries and orange peel 1/4 tsp salt 1 tsp soda 2 T brandy (I used rum extract) 1 egg beaten (I used a tablespoon of dried egg white) grated rind of one lemon 1/2 cup chopped pecans 3 cups sifted flour (I don’t sift, just put 2 3/4 cup instead worked fine) for the glaze 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup water heat oven to 325 warm honey in the microwave, add spices, salt, candied fruit.  mix dry ingredients.  Mix egg into honey mixture when it is cool enough to not cook the egg, then stir everything together. Spray a 9 X 13 cookie sheet with pam, pat the dough onto that with wet hands.  Bake about 30 minutes.  cook the sugar and water in a small saucepan to the medium ball stage, spread this on top of the bars while they are warm.   cool slightly and cut into bars.  48 bars = 61 cal, 1 g fat, . 1 g fiber.  I cut it into about 32 and called em 2 points.  If anyone wants exact figures for the whole recipe I will look it up if you post a request, I have it in Diet Power. Thank you so much for posting this!!  I’ve been looking for a reasonable fruit cake-like recipe.

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Thanks Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got this out of an old cookbook and renovated it.  The original is a german bar cookie called Leckerli. 1/2 cup splenda (the one that measures like sugar) 1/2 cup honey 3/4 teaspoon cloves (I hate clove, used allspice instead) 2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1/2 tsp ginger 3 oz candied fruit, whatever you like best, I used cherries and orange peel 1/4 tsp salt 1 tsp soda 2 T brandy (I used rum extract) 1 egg beaten (I used a tablespoon of dried egg white) grated rind of one lemon 1/2 cup chopped pecans 3 cups sifted flour (I don’t sift, just put 2 3/4 cup instead worked fine) for the glaze 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup water heat oven to 325 warm honey in the microwave, add spices, salt, candied fruit.  mix dry ingredients.  Mix egg into honey mixture when it is cool enough to not cook the egg, then stir everything together. Spray a 9 X 13 cookie sheet with pam, pat the dough onto that with wet hands.  Bake about 30 minutes.  cook the sugar and water in a small saucepan to the medium ball stage, spread this on top of the bars while they are warm.   cool slightly and cut into bars.  48 bars = 61 cal, 1 g fat, . 1 g fiber.  I cut it into about 32 and called em 2 points.  If anyone wants exact figures for the whole recipe I will look it up if you post a request, I have it in Diet Power. Thank you so much for posting this!!  I’ve been looking for a reasonable fruit cake-like recipe.

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I got this out of an old cookbook and renovated it.  The original is a german bar cookie called Leckerli. 1/2 cup splenda (the one that measures like sugar) 1/2 cup honey 3/4 teaspoon cloves (I hate clove, used allspice instead) 2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1/2 tsp ginger 3 oz candied fruit, whatever you like best, I used cherries and orange peel 1/4 tsp salt 1 tsp soda 2 T brandy (I used rum extract) 1 egg beaten (I used a tablespoon of dried egg white) grated rind of one lemon 1/2 cup chopped pecans 3 cups sifted flour (I don’t sift, just put 2 3/4 cup instead worked fine) for the glaze 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup water heat oven to 325 warm honey in the microwave, add spices, salt, candied fruit.  mix dry ingredients.  Mix egg into honey mixture when it is cool enough to not cook the egg, then stir everything together. Spray a 9 X 13 cookie sheet with pam, pat the dough onto that with wet hands.  Bake about 30 minutes.  cook the sugar and water in a small saucepan to the medium ball stage, spread this on top of the bars while they are warm.   cool slightly and cut into bars.  48 bars = 61 cal, 1 g fat, . 1 g fiber.  I cut it into about 32 and called em 2 points.  If anyone wants exact figures for the whole recipe I will look it up if you post a request, I have it in Diet Power.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got this out of an old cookbook and renovated it.  The original is a german bar cookie called Leckerli. 1/2 cup splenda (the one that measures like sugar) 1/2 cup honey 3/4 teaspoon cloves (I hate clove, used allspice instead) 2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1/2 tsp ginger 3 oz candied fruit, whatever you like best, I used cherries and orange peel 1/4 tsp salt 1 tsp soda 2 T brandy (I used rum extract) 1 egg beaten (I used a tablespoon of dried egg white) grated rind of one lemon 1/2 cup chopped pecans 3 cups sifted flour (I don’t sift, just put 2 3/4 cup instead worked fine) for the glaze 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup water heat oven to 325 warm honey in the microwave, add spices, salt, candied fruit.  mix dry ingredients.  Mix egg into honey mixture when it is cool enough to not cook the egg, then stir everything together. Spray a 9 X 13 cookie sheet with pam, pat the dough onto that with wet hands.  Bake about 30 minutes.  cook the sugar and water in a small saucepan to the medium ball stage, spread this on top of the bars while they are warm.   cool slightly and cut into bars.  48 bars = 61 cal, 1 g fat, . 1 g fiber.  I cut it into about 32 and called em 2 points.  If anyone wants exact figures for the whole recipe I will look it up if you post a request, I have it in Diet Power.

Thank you so much for posting this!!  I’ve been looking for a reasonable fruit cake-like recipe.

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pst that bare recipe please!!! Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tony, I know you like great food, much like me :) .  When I was brown bagging it to school I had some real creative stuff I would take.  Of course if you have a microwave at work that you can get to, that helps.  If not, there are hot packs you can buy for the insulated carry bag.  I used to also sometimes use a good thermos for some hot soup (low point vegetable for instance). One of my favorites was a thermos of low point soup, some home baked bread with a low point filler such as sliced veggies (bagged separate and added right before eating) and maybe some of that turkey or veggie bologna or ham…  and some baked chips.  Very filling, very good.. people always wanted my lunch.  Creole shrimp travels well in a thermos, or gumbo made with Zatarains seasoning 80 cal 0 fat per prepared cup for the mix alone, with enough veggies (okra, celery, whatever) and crawfish tails or little shrimp to make a 2 cup serving for 3 or 4 points(the additions add to fiber and bulk without adding many points).  I would take a chunk of good home baked whole wheat french bread with that.  I kept a big container of broccoli, cauliflower florets and prepared carrot sticks in the fridge that I would make up over the weekend.  Sounds like you don’t have a weekend, but maybe Amy would help?  I also have some recipes for some low fat fruit cake type bars that come out to 2 points each that are very good.  My bud in South Carolina that was visiting insisted I make her some more and send them.  She claims they were the reason for her 2 pound loss after visiting me at thanksgiving.  She ate 2 of em for her dinner at night. :)  I think it was the calories she burned with ole Billy Banks myself, mostly from watching the muscles ripple.  That does a lot for middle aged ladies like us. Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions. I’ve about decided to give up eating the employee meals, and pretty much just use the place for salads. It’s going to mean a bit more work and planning, but I’m worth it. Amy had an extra one of those square, vinyl-looking insulated zipper bag thingy’s that I can use to transport any number of things, and we’re well stocked in Tupperware! <g WI is tomorrow morning. I’m curious to see what that says…. Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246 Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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Hi Tony, The first thing I thought of is that you are now used to eating breakfast. What if you prepared something for your first meal the night before so you could eat it quickly and then go to work?  Maybe if you ate breakfast you wouldn’t be as hungry and the food at work could be easier to handle.  If this works out then you wouldn’t have the added hassle of taking a meal to work.  Lee

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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She claims they were the reason for her 2 pound loss after visiting me at thanksgiving.  She ate 2 of em for her dinner at night. :)  I think it was the calories she burned with ole Billy Banks myself, mostly from watching the muscles ripple.  That does a lot for middle aged ladies like us.

Whatever makes your nostrils flare, Lesanne….. LOL!! Thanks for the food and thermos tips. I have a couple of 0- and 1-point soup recipes from various WW sources and plan to make a produce run tomorrow. You’re right, I *do* love ‘great’ food, but I’m no purist. When I recently discovered the changes that had overtaken Subway, I thought I’d gone to heaven! It’s a fast-food chain, but they’ve been smart enough to hop on that ‘Jared’ train, and they’re riding it for all they’re worth. Well, there’s a Subway in the shopping area right up the street from the hotel. Any time I don’t want to hassle, I can get predictable and documentable results there. I notice not only their ‘7 Under 6′ selections, but the other stuff, salads and what-not. If I try to have "breakfast"-type food earlier here, then stuff I take from home or get at Subway is a good "lunch." That leaves only to make a proper dinner when I get home at night, and I’m in much better shape. Besides, doing it this way means less anxiety over choices or worse, having to ‘wing’ it. I’m not getting into what "does a lot" for middle-aged men, btw…. :-) ) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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Lesanne, could you post the recipes for the lowfat fruitcake bars ? Sounds like something I ‘d want to make and bring to work for lunch too ! — Nathalie from Belgium 134.1/116.1/2nd 10 % 108.5/Goal 68 Kg 295.6/255.9/2nd 10 % 239/Goal 150 pounds WAYOOM : 249

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tony, I know you like great food, much like me :) .  When I was brown bagging it to school I had some real creative stuff I would take.  Of course if you have a microwave at work that you can get to, that helps.  If not, there are hot packs you can buy for the insulated carry bag.  I used to also sometimes use a good thermos for some hot soup (low point vegetable for instance). One of my favorites was a thermos of low point soup, some home baked bread with a low point filler such as sliced veggies (bagged separate and added right before eating) and maybe some of that turkey or veggie bologna or ham…  and some baked chips.  Very filling, very good.. people always wanted my lunch.  Creole shrimp travels well in a thermos, or gumbo made with Zatarains seasoning 80 cal 0 fat per prepared cup for the mix alone, with enough veggies (okra, celery, whatever) and crawfish tails or little shrimp to make a 2 cup serving for 3 or 4 points(the additions add to fiber and bulk without adding many points).  I would take a chunk of good home baked whole wheat french bread with that.  I kept a big container of broccoli, cauliflower florets and prepared carrot sticks in the fridge that I would make up over the weekend.  Sounds like you don’t have a weekend, but maybe Amy would help?  I also have some recipes for some low fat fruit cake type bars that come out to 2 points each that are very good.  My bud in South Carolina that was visiting insisted I make her some more and send them.  She claims they were the reason for her 2 pound loss after visiting me at thanksgiving.  She ate 2 of em for her dinner at night. :)  I think it was the calories she burned with ole Billy Banks myself, mostly from watching the muscles ripple.  That does a lot for middle aged ladies like us. Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions. I’ve about decided to give up eating the employee meals, and pretty much just use the place for salads. It’s going to mean a bit more work and planning, but I’m worth it. Amy had an extra one of those square, vinyl-looking insulated zipper bag thingy’s that I can use to transport any number of things, and we’re well stocked in Tupperware! <g WI is tomorrow morning. I’m curious to see what that says…. Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246 Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions. I’ve about decided to give up eating the employee meals, and pretty much just use the place for salads. It’s going to mean a bit more work and planning, but I’m worth it. Amy had an extra one of those square, vinyl-looking insulated zipper bag thingy’s that I can use to transport any number of things, and we’re well stocked in Tupperware! <g WI is tomorrow morning. I’m curious to see what that says…. Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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I would definately pack some snacks.  Or brown bag a meal.  Or both.  It seems a shame to pass on free food, but hey, who wants to carry around a bunch of free food on their butt for the rest of their life?  Or practice eating way small servings a little bite at a time.  Not easy to do.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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Hi all, I like the way journaling helps me see what’s going on over a specific time span. I don’t like that Sunday’s have become such a challenge… I work Saturday night and pull a double on Sunday. That doesn’t mean, btw, that I’m working a lot of hours. It’s only a few hours for each gig. The glitch is that it’s thrown my eating around, and I need to do something about it. Generally, I have a really light meal at home after "arising," which can mean anywhere from 10AM to noon. (Just luv working eves!) My main meal of the day happens between 5-6PM — either at home with Amy when she is off, or more often at the employee food trough at work. Then I’ll finish up the day with an after-work ‘lunch’ kinda meal, around 10PM or so. On Sunday, however, I hit the floor running, at 8:30AM, to begin playing brunch at 10. Still tired from Saturday night, I don’t eat until after the first set. Then, in the employee caf, it’s a "mixture" depending on what’s there. There might be some breakfast stuff left, but lunch is already on the steam table. Whatcha’ think of beef stew and rice for breakfast? Me, either….<g So, for the last three Sundays I have been ‘winging’ it — always a bad move — and coming away from the noontime gig having eaten nearly 20 points. That means I have to go the rest of the afternoon, go to the *evening* gig, where there’s another meal in the employee joint, and then after that I’ve met Amy and gotten something (dinner?) out, to avoid hassle. In a nutshell, this ain’t workin’! I wind up with Sunday being wildly over, and I’m uncomfortable and grumpy. Add to this that my system is ’sluggish’ and Monday and Tuesday I just wanna kill something! Well, almost…..<g Amy and I discussed this (over dinner) last night, and I think the solution is that I have to do more stuff in the house. I need to make things I can take, and eat at the hotel less (at least, not their food), which means a little more hassle but better control. Anyone have some thoughts about this, or other alternatives to suggest? The fact that my schedule is a little cock-eyed is a minor glitch to me — it works out okay on weeknights, for example — but I am getting frustrated with this weekend thing. I know it’s keeping me from losing what I might be, although I’m not disappointed with the numbers. I feel as if I should be registering greater loss, and could be if I can work the rough spots out. WI is tomorrow AM, and I have the normal concern about that, too…… Your ideas?? All suggestions gratefully accepted! :-) Tony Florida 259/245/155 (since Oct 9, ‘02) 1st 10% goal = 233; WAYOOM goal 246

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Ok, call me stupid if you want (I just set myself up for a long thread, I think…) but did this DVD come out in the US? I have been busy the last week or so and didn’t realize that it came out….?

Next Tuesday Kelly, was put back for some reason.

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Ahhh, thank ye. I panicked Later Kelly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Next Tuesday Kelly, was put back for some reason.

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Aaron, there are two versions of that video on the DVD. When you select track selection and go to SIAM, select the other one. regards, P The SIAM American video makes me ashamed to be an American and a U2 fan.  I saw it at a rock and bowl, and the girl I was with shouted, "What the f$%$ is this?  It’s such a good song, why’d they ruin it?" Why didn’t they just keep the original video.  It was more serious and moving, while the football video was corny with the Lemons vs. Flys in the Unforgettable Fire Stadium on a Sunday, Bloody Sunday.  U2 often recall crap videos, well, here’s a fairly recent one.  I really was hoping they’d put the original SIAM video on the DVD.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t sat and watched everything on it yet. Aye I’ve not sat thro it all yet, went thro all the bits I hadn’t seen or hadn’t seen in a while. Surprised they put the US video of SIAM on the UK DVD. I’d already seen this thanks to QTV and I don’t think its as good as the original video. Maybe the original is hidden somewhere? Love the live Gone, surely this means there gonna release the full POPMART DVD soon!!! Love the footage on UTEOTW as well. Would like to think there gonna release that Houston ZOOTV gig on DVD some point in the next 20 years cause I have other stuff (Fly, Streets) from that gig that was aired on MTV. Slightly different studio version of THTBA, more keyboards i think. The video is slightly dull so if it is released as a single I’d think they’ll make a video to be more in line with the movie. Ohhhh I forgot about the commentaries! lol I never saw them on the options menu! duh Will need to fire the DVD into the PC and look for those. Cheers for the heads up about the hidden LNOE stuff!!! *g* Will need to search for that. Love the One/ES docs! Kinda dissapointed in the Sarajevo doc cause I was hoping for abit more behind the scenes at the gig, most of that I’ve already got cause it was on VH1. Oh and I forgot to mention- when I very first opened the case, something I wasn’t expecting. A place to put the bonus DVD that came with the Limted Edition Best Of cd. Aye that is a good idea!! One thing I did find on the DVD, and I am not sure how or where I found it or anything, but I recall when I first watched the Elevation DVD, the only way for me to find the Easter Eggs was to use the shuffle button. Yep same here, I to don’t have numbers on my remote so I had to use that button. Is the DVD worth my money? You bet! Yeah I thought it was rather expensive but when I saw the prices of other DVD’s then I guess its money well spent! 10/10 from me, roll on the new stuff!

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Ok, call me stupid if you want (I just set myself up for a long thread, I think…) but did this DVD come out in the US? I have been busy the last week or so and didn’t realize that it came out….? Later Kelly

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The SIAM American video makes me ashamed to be an American and a U2 fan.  I saw it at a rock and bowl, and the girl I was with shouted, "What the f$%$ is this?  It’s such a good song, why’d they ruin it?" Why didn’t they just keep the original video.  It was more serious and moving, while the football video was corny with the Lemons vs. Flys in the Unforgettable Fire Stadium on a Sunday, Bloody Sunday.  U2 often recall crap videos, well, here’s a fairly recent one.  I really was hoping they’d put the original SIAM video on the DVD. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t sat and watched everything on it yet. Aye I’ve not sat thro it all yet, went thro all the bits I hadn’t seen or hadn’t seen in a while. Surprised they put the US video of SIAM on the UK DVD. I’d already seen this thanks to QTV and I don’t think its as good as the original video. Maybe the original is hidden somewhere? Love the live Gone, surely this means there gonna release the full POPMART DVD soon!!! Love the footage on UTEOTW as well. Would like to think there gonna release that Houston ZOOTV gig on DVD some point in the next 20 years cause I have other stuff (Fly, Streets) from that gig that was aired on MTV. Slightly different studio version of THTBA, more keyboards i think. The video is slightly dull so if it is released as a single I’d think they’ll make a video to be more in line with the movie. Ohhhh I forgot about the commentaries! lol I never saw them on the options menu! duh Will need to fire the DVD into the PC and look for those. Cheers for the heads up about the hidden LNOE stuff!!! *g* Will need to search for that. Love the One/ES docs! Kinda dissapointed in the Sarajevo doc cause I was hoping for abit more behind the scenes at the gig, most of that I’ve already got cause it was on VH1. Oh and I forgot to mention- when I very first opened the case, something I wasn’t expecting. A place to put the bonus DVD that came with the Limted Edition Best Of cd. Aye that is a good idea!! One thing I did find on the DVD, and I am not sure how or where I found it or anything, but I recall when I first watched the Elevation DVD, the only way for me to find the Easter Eggs was to use the shuffle button. Yep same here, I to don’t have numbers on my remote so I had to use that button. Is the DVD worth my money? You bet! Yeah I thought it was rather expensive but when I saw the prices of other DVD’s then I guess its money well spent! 10/10 from me, roll on the new stuff!

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It does play on mine…. Found any easter eggs yet??

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok I’m off to sulk cause I can’t find the commentries on the DVD, Where are they? found them! duh The DVD wont play on my PC neither! :( DVD wont play on my PC still, how the hell are we supposed to access the screensavers etc then?

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:, I was up late with Mum one night watching telly and on : came U2, and record I pressed, taping over something or other for my Dad. : I’ve got to say, I’ve done that 3 times since Achtung Baby came out! Thing is my Dad actually got a wave from Bono (well he said it was some white faced bloke with a gold suit on which isn’t a bad description from a colour blind bloke!) after the Zoo TV gig at Celtic Park so you’d think he’d be glad of a bit of U2 on top of his Elton John tapes!!!

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have just finished watching my latest treasure – absolutely fantastic – loved every bit – woth every penny…i mean cent :) the commentaries give some great insight and i thoroughly enjoyed the mini-docs i feel great tonight davy dublin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t sat and watched everything on it yet. But so far I like. There’s the clips on there I’ve not seen before (a version of Stuck, the Staring At The Sun video that Miss Morleigh had her hand in, and so on) and I quite liked the "behind the scenes" sort of documentaries that are there. (well there we go, I hadn’t realised Bono was actually sitting on a train in Electrical Storm!). I was mighty impressed with the fact the Until The End Of The World video was from the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast. The copy of that I have (Zoo TV Outside Broadcast) I only ever obtained by accident when, just after I got into U2, I was up late with Mum one night watching telly and on came U2, and record I pressed, taping over something or other for my Dad. I’ve got to say, I think I’ve watched that tape more than 200 times since- I love it! You can imagine the condition it is in. Warbled sound, fuzzy picture- some parts my video player decides its just not worth watching and all I get is a blue screen. So along comes Until The End Of The World from there, and I am enthralled. The Outside Broadcast would have to be one of my favourite U2 specials- now *thats* something I’d like to see on DVD…. …anyways back to the current DVD. I didn’t sit and watch it all the way through- I went straight to the things I’ve not seen before (the documentaries to start with) and then onto my favourite clips. Derr, it took me awhile to realise the options available, that heck I get to see the alternate videos for some of the songs. So I was fiddling with that and then remembered: the directors commentaries! I’ve only listened to a few of those thus far. Kevin Godley, although he has done some pretty good videos (Even Better Than The Real Thing), his commentary isn’t that insightful or entertaining or interesting. Phil Joanou’s commentaries were pretty good- a mixture of background information for the video shoot, how it was done, his thoughts on it, and a few little humourous snippets. He doesn’t stop talking about the video so it makes it quite interesting. But my favourite was most definitely Wim Wenders discussing Stay. Oh my. I love that song, I love that clip, I love some of Wim Wenders’ movies. So to hear him discussing it all was the first thrill. And then I realised, he is a fan. You can hear it when he is talking about the song, the band, the clip- he is a fan of U2, their music and all the rest of it. Out of all the commentaries I did listen to (EBTTRT, One, Stay, Numb, and another I can’t recall just now…) Wim Wenders discussing Stay is the only one I will go back to actually listen to again. Oh and I forgot to mention- when I very first opened the case, something I wasn’t expecting. A place to put the bonus DVD that came with the Limted Edition Best Of cd. One thing I did find on the DVD, and I am not sure how or where I found it or anything, but I recall when I first watched the Elevation DVD, the only way for me to find the Easter Eggs was to use the shuffle button. So I was playing with the shuffle button and all that was happening was I was repeatedly getting the same tracks over and over. And then suddenly there’d be some behind the scenes footage from the Last Night On Earth video, of the band walking and running from Mr Old Dude (sorry, I don’t know his name!) with sword…. then I’d get a message saying "Track 03 prohibited from this point." The second time I did it, found the same clip after repeatedly being given EBTTRL, I got the message "Track 20 prohibited from this point" (or something like that, I can’t recall the exact wording). Weirdness, I wonder if there is more hidden stuff on there. Is the DVD worth my money? You bet! — CHEERS :) Nic My Babbling: http://nicstaru2.livejournal.com My Cam: http://nicstaru2.myowncam.org

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Ok I’m off to sulk cause I can’t find the commentries on the DVD, Where are they? I can only find 2 hidden tracks. EBTTRT dance mix video (perfecto mix) & another version of One. The DVD wont play on my PC neither! :(

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Ok I’m off to sulk cause I can’t find the commentries on the DVD, Where are they?

found them! duh The DVD wont play on my PC neither! :(

DVD wont play on my PC still, how the hell are we supposed to access the screensavers etc then?

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Aye I’ve not sat thro it all yet, went thro all the bits I hadn’t seen or hadn’t seen in a while. Surprised they put the US video of SIAM on the UK DVD. I’d already seen this thanks to QTV and I don’t think its as good as the original video. Maybe the original is hidden somewhere?

The original is on there nicky- when you go to track selection, and select SIAM, theres the option for two videos, along with the commentaries.   Tis like that with all the songs that have more than one clip. Slightly different studio version of THTBA, more keyboards i think. The video is slightly dull so if it is released as a single I’d think they’ll make a video to be more in line with the movie.

DId you notice the date they filmed that- rehearsals apparently, on May 9th ths year…. wheeeeee!  While i was out party-hardy they were there doing that! Ohhhh I forgot about the commentaries! lol I never saw them on the options menu! duh Will need to fire the DVD into the PC and look for those. Cheers for the heads up about the hidden LNOE stuff!!! *g* Will need to search for that.

Tis not v long, goes for about 30 seconds, if that. Love the One/ES docs! Kinda dissapointed in the Sarajevo doc cause I was hoping for abit more behind the scenes at the gig, most of that I’ve already got cause it was on VH1.

I’d not ever seen it see, any of that stuff about Miss Sarajevo.  We don’t get shown much around these parts, and if we do its not ever publicized!

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I haven’t sat and watched everything on it yet.

Aye I’ve not sat thro it all yet, went thro all the bits I hadn’t seen or hadn’t seen in a while. Surprised they put the US video of SIAM on the UK DVD. I’d already seen this thanks to QTV and I don’t think its as good as the original video. Maybe the original is hidden somewhere? Love the live Gone, surely this means there gonna release the full POPMART DVD soon!!! Love the footage on UTEOTW as well. Would like to think there gonna release that Houston ZOOTV gig on DVD some point in the next 20 years cause I have other stuff (Fly, Streets) from that gig that was aired on MTV. Slightly different studio version of THTBA, more keyboards i think. The video is slightly dull so if it is released as a single I’d think they’ll make a video to be more in line with the movie. Ohhhh I forgot about the commentaries! lol I never saw them on the options menu! duh Will need to fire the DVD into the PC and look for those. Cheers for the heads up about the hidden LNOE stuff!!! *g* Will need to search for that. Love the One/ES docs! Kinda dissapointed in the Sarajevo doc cause I was hoping for abit more behind the scenes at the gig, most of that I’ve already got cause it was on VH1. Oh and I forgot to mention- when I very first opened the case, something I wasn’t expecting. A place to put the bonus DVD that came with the Limted Edition Best Of cd.

Aye that is a good idea!! One thing I did find on the DVD, and I am not sure how or where I found it or anything, but I recall when I first watched the Elevation DVD, the only way for me to find the Easter Eggs was to use the shuffle button.

Yep same here, I to don’t have numbers on my remote so I had to use that button. Is the DVD worth my money? You bet!

Yeah I thought it was rather expensive but when I saw the prices of other DVD’s then I guess its money well spent! 10/10 from me, roll on the new stuff!

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I haven’t sat and watched everything on it yet. But so far I like. There’s the clips on there I’ve not seen before (a version of Stuck, the Staring At The Sun video that Miss Morleigh had her hand in, and so on) and I quite liked the "behind the scenes" sort of documentaries that are there. (well there we go, I hadn’t realised Bono was actually sitting on a train in Electrical Storm!). I was mighty impressed with the fact the Until The End Of The World video was from the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast. The copy of that I have (Zoo TV Outside Broadcast) I only ever obtained by accident when, just after I got into U2, I was up late with Mum one night watching telly and on came U2, and record I pressed, taping over something or other for my Dad. I’ve got to say, I think I’ve watched that tape more than 200 times since- I love it! You can imagine the condition it is in. Warbled sound, fuzzy picture- some parts my video player decides its just not worth watching and all I get is a blue screen. So along comes Until The End Of The World from there, and I am enthralled. The Outside Broadcast would have to be one of my favourite U2 specials- now *thats* something I’d like to see on DVD…. …anyways back to the current DVD. I didn’t sit and watch it all the way through- I went straight to the things I’ve not seen before (the documentaries to start with) and then onto my favourite clips. Derr, it took me awhile to realise the options available, that heck I get to see the alternate videos for some of the songs. So I was fiddling with that and then remembered: the directors commentaries! I’ve only listened to a few of those thus far. Kevin Godley, although he has done some pretty good videos (Even Better Than The Real Thing), his commentary isn’t that insightful or entertaining or interesting. Phil Joanou’s commentaries were pretty good- a mixture of background information for the video shoot, how it was done, his thoughts on it, and a few little humourous snippets. He doesn’t stop talking about the video so it makes it quite interesting. But my favourite was most definitely Wim Wenders discussing Stay. Oh my. I love that song, I love that clip, I love some of Wim Wenders’ movies. So to hear him discussing it all was the first thrill. And then I realised, he is a fan. You can hear it when he is talking about the song, the band, the clip- he is a fan of U2, their music and all the rest of it. Out of all the commentaries I did listen to (EBTTRT, One, Stay, Numb, and another I can’t recall just now…) Wim Wenders discussing Stay is the only one I will go back to actually listen to again. Oh and I forgot to mention- when I very first opened the case, something I wasn’t expecting. A place to put the bonus DVD that came with the Limted Edition Best Of cd. One thing I did find on the DVD, and I am not sure how or where I found it or anything, but I recall when I first watched the Elevation DVD, the only way for me to find the Easter Eggs was to use the shuffle button. So I was playing with the shuffle button and all that was happening was I was repeatedly getting the same tracks over and over. And then suddenly there’d be some behind the scenes footage from the Last Night On Earth video, of the band walking and running from Mr Old Dude (sorry, I don’t know his name!) with sword…. then I’d get a message saying "Track 03 prohibited from this point." The second time I did it, found the same clip after repeatedly being given EBTTRL, I got the message "Track 20 prohibited from this point" (or something like that, I can’t recall the exact wording). Weirdness, I wonder if there is more hidden stuff on there. Is the DVD worth my money? You bet! — CHEERS :) Nic My Babbling: http://nicstaru2.livejournal.com My Cam: http://nicstaru2.myowncam.org

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I notice its only 9 tracks.  Was this what was shown in theatres a week or so ago?  And I wonder if this is whats being shown on CBS at the end of the month?

Not sure but I did manage to get a hold of a Italian TV copy and it only has 8 tracks. — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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too bad when burnt to SVCD you have bad track transitions. is there any chance to get this one complete on DVD???

I didn’t post the video so I can’t help you there but it seems that this copy has had the interview type stuff edited out! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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too bad when burnt to SVCD you have bad track transitions. is there any chance to get this one complete on DVD??? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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For all of the vids I’m getting stuff like: [This is a multi-part message, of which only 150 of 240 parts are available.] Is this my usenet server that doesn’t have them or am I doing something screwy?  I’m using Forte Agent. Thanks if you know.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Sadly its either your newsserver, or its the posters newsserver either way your out of luck.  Sometimes a few parts will arrive a bit later, but if your missing as many as you are though its safe to assume you simply won’t be able to get this.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For all of the vids I’m getting stuff like: [This is a multi-part message, of which only 150 of 240 parts are available.] Is this my usenet server that doesn’t have them or am I doing something screwy?  I’m using Forte Agent. Thanks if you know. Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Well Outlook really isn’t the program to be using for this but what your looking for you find by either right clicking or in the -Message- menu and its called ‘Combine & Decode’. You highlight all the parts of the file you want (and in Outlook you’ll have to count em and make sure they’re all there – often they’re not)  select combine & decode – wait a while, make some tea, read the newspaper, and eventually an email will appear with the file as its attachment.  Save it and close the window.  Move on to the next file.  You may want to turn off the option that automaticly downloads every header you highlight to speed up the process. There are newsreaders that handle this type of activity much better if you plan on doing this often.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, i’ve tried to download the messages, but they are split in 300 messages containing about 300kb each. I remember there was a setting in outlook which splits messages larger than x KB, but I cannot find the option. I am using outlook Express 6, so if anyone is able to help me….. Thanks a lot, Bart www.u2-trading.tk Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Trab I’m getting Pts 1-5, 7 & 9 if that helps you any. 6 & 8 are incomplete just now Kev

: Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & : alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone : : Thanks!! : : TraB! : :

Kev, If that’s your correct email then you’ve got mail! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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I notice its only 9 tracks.  Was this what was shown in theatres a week or so ago?  And I wonder if this is whats being shown on CBS at the end of the month?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Hi, i’ve tried to download the messages, but they are split in 300 messages containing about 300kb each. I remember there was a setting in outlook which splits messages larger than x KB, but I cannot find the option. I am using outlook Express 6, so if anyone is able to help me….. Thanks a lot, Bart www.u2-trading.tk

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Trab I’m getting Pts 1-5, 7 & 9 if that helps you any. 6 & 8 are incomplete just now Kev

: Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & : alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone : : Thanks!! : : TraB! : : : — : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : :

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Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Someone has posted the Slane show in svcd at alt.binaries.mpeg.video & alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music but I was unable to get 1,2,3,6  so if someone Thanks!! TraB!

<PS My Italian copy don’t have Sunday Bloody Sunday included but this one — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Yep, it’s really a shame… Phil Joanou filmed hours of movie, and the only bonus we get on the DVD is the teaser. — Joker www.u2street.net .::. www.u2united.tk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What IMHO would be great a complete concert with the multi-angle feature. I would love it if i could switch between the 4 guys or see the concert from behind larry’s drum kit. On the otherhand i think dat a Rattle and Hum Directors Cut box. With al the unseen footage. I’ve never seen the Outtakes but i know they are floating around. So what about remastering the stuff put all those extra hours on DVD. Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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A full concert of arnhem1 2001 (31-07-2001). That would really kicks ass because i was there at the front row!!! But it’s an utopia i think … Michel.

That’s awesome. You were probably right next to me, lol. Good show that one. Nate

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A complete Joshua Tree concert, from Streets to 40… — Joker www.u2street.net .::. www.u2united.tk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Only have one wish, Zoo TV, simply the best imho Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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ZOO TV IN SYDNEY… I love that video sooo much… Maybe the Popmart from Mexico just for "Mofo", "Sunday bloody sunday" and "Desire" (love the slbum, hate the video) And the full version of "Rattle and Hum " (They did it with Lord of the rings, they can do it with this) And a longer version of the "Histroy Mix" from the SE Dvd with the best of…

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ZOO TV Outside Broadcast – 1992, The Fox Special without the crap throughout- and one version with all the ZOO TV interference.  That would be cool.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

The second Slane gig from the Elevation tour in Ireland, 2001.  Simply the best U2 concert I have ever seen, everything about that night was just absolutely amazing. Mark

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What about a DVD of all U2 concerts in Holland with interviews, performances, fan interviews etcetc, behind the scenes etcetc Sounds nice but that will be a 4 DVD then :D Michel. PS. Marcel .. good luck with the divorce.

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I would like to make an own documentary ‘behind the scenes’ of the upcoming tour. A documentary made by a fan, for all U2 fans.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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I would really love to see the following released 1. Rattle & Hum Special Edition with some of the best of the outtakes. There are so many of them it would be impossible to fit them all on two DVDs. I mean we dont need three different versions of Where The Streets Have No Name. Have outtakes of songs from the tour not on the main film like The Unforgettable Fire, etc. 2. ZooTV two disc set. Have both the DC Concert which was filmed but never released and the Sydney concert. 3. Red Rocks Uncut. — "If Morrissey says not to eat meat, then I’m going to eat meat; that’s how much I hate Morrissey." — Robert Smith "It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own." —Harry S Truman "If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it – Now quiet, they’re about to announce the lottery numbers!" —Homer Simpson

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A lot of the material we’d like to see wouldn’t be profitable for a wide release, since most people aren’t die hard U2 fans, and wouldn’t buy it. Therefore, I’d start up a special sales section of U2’s official site, and release special DVDs that you could only buy online.  This way, it’s being done for the fans, money isn’t being wasted on promotion, and everyone who wants one can get one. Let’s see… To begin with, the Best of 1980-1990 Videos needs to be put out on DVD, as does ZooTV Live From Sydney (but this time, let’s not cut out any songs, eh?) and PopMart Live From Mexico City (and this time, let’s use the footage from the TV broadcast where you can actually see Bono during Wake Up Dead Man). There’s been a widely bootlegged high quality professional video of U2 from Syracuse in 1987.  Let’s put that out on DVD.  Then let’s have someone go through and see what other video treasures the band has from the early days to now – it would be great if it were possible to find U2 stuff from their beginning to now and put it out.  I remember a TV broadcast of U2 in 1981, a complete show.  Put that out.  I also think they should put out one complete, uncut live CD set from each tour they’ve done. Josh VertigoLand                      http://members.aol.com/VertigoMan Me (the online diary)          http://members.aol.com/vertigoman/me CDR Trading:                   http://members.aol.com/vertigoman/me/bootlist.html

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A full concert of arnhem1 2001 (31-07-2001). That would really kicks ass because i was there at the front row!!! But it’s an utopia i think … Michel. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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What IMHO would be great a complete concert with the multi-angle feature. I would love it if i could switch between the 4 guys or see the concert from behind larry’s drum kit. On the otherhand i think dat a Rattle and Hum Directors Cut box. With al the unseen footage. I’ve never seen the Outtakes but i know they are floating around. So what about remastering the stuff put all those extra hours on DVD. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

i think if the band put in more personal content it would be great, backstage, rehearsal footage, more interviews made for the dvds, a commentary track with the band compared to some of the other artists putting out dvds, i just think they could do a lot more… like, why doesn’t the 1990-2000 compilation have all the videos….?

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I would like to see shows (from a certain era) which were not released before on a video/dvd. Unforgettable fire tour would be great, and lovetown would also do well, although lovetown was partially included on the rattle and hum dvd. Some tracks form the early tours such as boy and october could be included as extra’s. -Bart

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

Sounds fantastic- apart from why not put the whole of the 1989 Dublin show on? Was it filmed at all? I’m about to listen to however much of the 1989 Dublin Show BBC 6 Music decide to broadcast as part of tonight’s ‘Dream Ticket’ – we’ll get about 56 minutes of it- i’ve never heard any of it before! you can listen online: http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/dream_ticket.shtml

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Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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Only have one wish, Zoo TV, simply the best imho

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Imagine you work for Interscope/Dreamchaser/Not Us Ltd., and you are a huge fan of the U2 (we all are!)  You were tasked to develop a DVD that would be the ultimate release for a hardcore fan, but would also appease the casual fan.  What era/production would you use?  What would it contain.  Here’s mine: 1)A 3 disc DVD set that chronicles the ZOOTV/Zooropa era, starting with a snippet from the boys’ last show in 1989 at Dublin where Bono notes that "..we just have to go away and dream it all up again…" and leading the viewer deep into Berlin and the rehearsals at Hansa Ton studios.  I realize that the current Achtung Baby VHS covers this, but with the advantages of DVD, this could be an amazing set.  Include footage of the boys rehearsing and recording in Germany, as well as in Dublin.  Cover the aspects of creating and designing the ZooTV tour and the set, as well as interviews the group gave during that era, and footage of them travelling around the world on the tour.  Finally, the third disc would consist of live performances of the basic Zoo set list, with best performances of each song taken from their extensive footage of all ZooTV shows. Now that would be an amazing DVD. 2)Same treatment for the Joshua Tree 3)Simply release The Best of 1980-1990 and Popmart Mexico and ZooTV Live from Sydney on DVD with rehearsals and extras.

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